Muslims please don't be offended i am not attacking your belief in Allah only the origins of your "church", i use the word church to mean organized religion. i only state historical fact that is not hidden but is fairly obscure because of its volatile nature. one day the truth about the various "churches" will be common knowledge, if mankind can only survive the turmoil created by these "churches". ok here are the facts, let me know what you think. the vatican wanted the pope to rule from Jerusalem but to make it a roman catholic city they had to get rid of the jews and the christians in north africa. so at the end of the third century a jesuit cardinal named augustine bea gave the vatican the idea to use the vast number of the children of ishmael "arabs" to do their dirty work. now the vatican knew better than any that the beast way to control vast numbers of people was through religion, so they set about creating a messiah for the arabs. a wealthy arab woman named khadijah who was loyal to the pope was given the task of finding a man that could be molded into a prophet. she met muhammad saw his potential and married him. at the direction of the vatican roman catholic arabs all over north africa began telling a story of a great one that would rise up from among them to be the chosen one of their god. thus was the birth of islam. the funny part is that once the pope passed down edicts to the muslims allowing them to invade and conquer the nations of north africa he sealed the fate of the land of israel turning it into a war zone for the next 1700 years. the muslims held jesus in high esteem as a prophet of the lord and as the pope was his representative on earth they felt he was also a prophet. by the time the muslims had conquered jerusalem they had become so powerful and united under islam that they refused to turn the city over to the vatican. in fact islam and its armies had become so powerful that they next wanted to conquer europe. naturally believing the pope to be a prophet of god and hence on their side they went to him and requested papal bulls allowing them to invade european countries. this enraged the pope so he called up his armies and thus began the crusades. the rest of the story is common history openly taught. imacatholic2 i spent no small amount of time at the link you provided and considering you are a level 7 top contributor i expected a lot more. this site offers not one bit of information to refute what i have said. as the "truth" this site provides only typical christian dogma but no historical facts at all, none. as far as the prevalence of christianity by the end of the third century it was well established throughout north africa and north to the black sea. by that time there had been 37 popes or "bishops of rome" including st. peter and also 5 more considered "anti popes". also at this time the roman catholic religion was fairly widespread among the arab population. as far as there being no bible translated into arabic as great gig in the sky pointed out this made no difference how do you think catholic missionaries teach the word of god to people around the world who cannot even read their native language?
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Muhammed knew very well of Christianity/Judaism when he had his partial complex seizure (which I believe is what happened).
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don't bogart that joint, my friend, pass it over to me
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Interesting idea, but do you have any evidence?
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that's not true I am a roman catholic.. and mohammad was preaching islam during the end of the roman empire and the beginning of the byzantine empire. the Pope was a bishop more inside of the catholic communion after the schism.. the Pope rule the catholic faith in the western and Istanbul was ruled by the empire byzantine. but arabs didn't appear until they were attacking jordan until the Holy Land.. the Byzantine empire suffered a big problem.. after that the Pope wanted to dominate jerusalem and to put a catholic bishop instead of an orthodox.. because after the islamic conquest in jerusalem.. many christians survived and they kept the holy churches.. but Pope wanted the power of the Holy land.. and economy power of this area.. there was a small latin kingdom but it was destroyed by saladine..muslims didn't know the Pope.. they only knew the kings like richard of lion heart.. they knew the pope until they went to spain I think so.. if I am not wrong
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No, the Western Canon of the Bible was not translated into Arabic until about 800 AD. Whatever contact Mohammed would have had with any Christian, this Christian was a heretic according to the accepted Western tradition. Mohammed's belief that the Trinity was God, Jesus and Mary could have been learned from a Nestorian or Arian Christian, and the thought that Rome controlled Islam at any time is very improbable, given the facts.
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No. This is just more crazy Chick Publications conspiracy theories with no evidence. If we were to believe all that Chick Publications claim then we would believe the the Catholic Church: • Started Islam • Instigated the American Civil War • Assassinated Abraham Lincoln • Formed the Ku Klux Klan • Was responsible for the Inquisition known as the WWII Jewish Holocaust • Keeps every Christian's name in a computer in order to make persecution easier Here is a detailed rebuttal to Chick's tracks: http://www.catholic.com/library/sr_chick_tracts_p1.asp With love in Christ.
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Very interesting. Thanks for the food for thought. I like your answers and questions. Keep it up soldier!
