Sunday, August 21, 2011

Why did Catholic church protect the priest who sexually abused 200 deaf boys at a catholic school

Why did Catholic church protect the priest who sexually abused 200 deaf boys at a catholic school?
New york times on Thursday published fresh allegation that catholic church was more interested in protecting Lawrence Murphy, who worked at the former st john's school for the deaf in st Francis, Wisconsin, according to new york times, abused sexually 200 school boys. The request to probe into this sex scandal was denied by vatican. http://beta.thehindu.com/news/international/article304891.ece
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They tried to have a hearing... *groan*
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It would have just fallen on deaf ears anyways **groan**
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Because they are bad?
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There is a lot of evil happening in God's church , yet all those people who coverd up and abused will surely answer to God.
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Please don't omit the fact that the current Pope was the one who actually dismissed any investigation into the allegations.
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Any bureaucracy protects its own.
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Because for years they have swept these molestation cases under the rug, all in the name of protecting their image. Well, God has made sure that these horrible doings have come to light, so that everyone in the world will see the wickedness that can happen ANYWHERE, including a church. IF the priest was shielded and protected, God will judge all churches, not just the Catholic Church for hiding such terrible perversions from within its walls and failing to do anything about it. Children should be protected and nurtured, not abused. God's wrath will be made known.
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I don't agree with how it was handled (I am not catholic anyway), but I understand the era and the times when this happened. I also understand the news was brought forth rather late in the person's life who was accused. The person is dead and has been for a long time. I think if you really examine the FACTS you would see that one of the people claiming to be abused did bring their information to the local authorities who did NOTHING. Why blame the church when even the local secular government did nothing? Want to fish for a blame game I guess. The real issue is why people did not press on the issue at the time and let it go. Very disappointing.
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Because the Church authorities, Herr Ratzinger at the helm, preferred to let those boys suffer injustice rather than to cause scandal to the Church. It's truly heinous and supports my belief that Joseph Ratzinger is a morally bankrupt man who got to be Pope through political wheeling/dealing. Luckily the vast majority of Catholic priests are hardworking, prayerful, dedicated men. It isn't fair to judge them by the actions of a tiny minority of abusers.
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did you even READ the whole article let alone comprehend a couple points.... the vatican was alerted AFTER the police had dropped the charges due to lack of evidence the vatican was contacted again about the incident 40 years later where were the parents? where were the kids themselves once they became adults? do you even have CLUE as to how molestation was seen in the 50's and 60's -- as a sexual problem NOT a mental one, people were recommended therapy not criminal charges.
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NEW YORK TIMES TRIES TO KEEP FLAME ALIVE March 26, 2010 Catholic League president Bill Donohue addresses today's New York Times news story on the pope: "Pope Was Told Pedophile Priest Would Get Transfer." That's the headline in today's New York Times piece on the pope. Yet the Times offers absolutely no evidence to support this charge. All it says is that his office "was copied on a memo" about the transfer of Peter Hullermann. According to Church officials, the story says the memo was routine and was "unlikely to have landed on the archbishop's desk." Let's say Archbishop Joseph Ratzinger, now the pope, did in fact learn of the transfer. So what? Wasn't that what he expected to happen? After all, we know from a March 16 Times story that when Ratzinger's subordinates recommended therapy for Hullermann, he approved it. That was the drill of the day: after being treated, the patient (I prefer the term offender) returns to work. It's still the drill of the day in many secular quarters today, particularly in the public schools. A more hard-line approach, obviously, makes more sense, but the therapeutic industry is very powerful. In other words, there is no real news in today's news story. So why print it? To keep the flame alive. Look for the Times to run another story saying they have proof Ratzinger knew of the transfer. Did they think that after he approved the therapy that Hullermann would be sent to the Gulag? Yesterday's Times story on the half-century old case concerning Father Lawrence Murphy will be the subject of an op-ed page ad in Tuesday's New York Times. Meanwhile, I am taking advantage of every TV opportunity to set the record straight. The pope is a great man, and the Catholic League is proud to stand by him. _____________________________________________________________ NEW YORK TIMES AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH March 25, 2010 Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments today on the front-page article in today's New York Times about priestly sexual abuse: Media requests to deal with this subject make it difficult to provide an adequate response to today's article by Laurie Goodstein. But the time has come to ask some serious questions about why the Times is working overtime with wholly discredited lawyers to uncover dirt in the Catholic Church that occurred a half-century ago. Those questions will be raised in an ad I am writing that will be published in next Tuesday's New York Times; a rejoinder to the article will also be made. All I can say now is that this is the last straw. ___________________________________________________________ MEDIA MOSTLY IGNORE SEX ABUSE DATA March 24, 2010 Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments on the way the media are reacting to the 2009 annual report on priestly sexual abuse that was just released by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops: There was a 36 percent decline in allegations of clergy sexual abuse between 2008 and 2009. As usual, most of the alleged offenders are either dead and buried, have already been thrown out of the priesthood, or are missing. There were six allegations made in 2009 involving minors. Six. As always, males are the preferred target. The report gave an age breakdown but did not mention the significant role played by homosexuals. Media reports never mentioned it either. Here's how the media responded. AP ran a story of 864 words, but most newspapers ignored it: only two—the Asbury Park Press and the News Journal (Wilmington)—decided to run it. The Washington Post did a responsible job by covering it in 505 words. The St. Paul Pioneer Press also offered a decent summary. By contrast, the New York Times ran a 92-word article. The Chicago Tribune did much the same. None of the other big dailies—from the Catholic-bashing Boston Globe to the reliably anti-Catholic Los Angeles Times—even bothered to mention it. NPR gave it short mention, but the broadcast and cable stations ignored it. It's all so predictable. Bad news about the Catholic Church is front-page news, but good news goes largely ignored. To those who say it's no different with any other group, consider this. The AP reports today that a rabbi accused of raping a 7-year-old girl in New York a decade ago was arrested yesterday outside his Arizona synagogue. Aside from a very brief article in the New York Daily News, not a single newspaper in New York or Arizona—or anywhere else—bothered to print it. _______________________________________________________________ You, sir, are just another bigot on a witch hunt.
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I am truly surprised your question is still here since others have posted and their question was deleted. I am truly pis..ed at the pope and all the bas..ds getting away for so long and no judgment ever went trough ! The big silence ! I am a Catholic raised this way and am no longer proud ! I no longer wish to be a Catholic ! In the last months there are more and more scandals coming out but what really made me so angry ? Is when the pope wanted to have Pie XII canonized !!!!!!!!Bas..d ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Pius_XII#Cause_for_canonization
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Dont worry theres a millstone in gods hand waiting to sink them in the eternal pit
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Vatican officials who spoke on background said The New York Times story was unfair because it ignored the fact that, at the urging of Cardinal Ratzinger himself, new procedures to deal with priest abusers were put in place in 2002, including measures making it easier to laicize them. "This would be handled differently today, based on jurisprudence and experience," one Vatican official told Catholic News Service. "But you can't accuse people of not applying in 1998 a principle that was established in 2002."
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It does not surprise me in the least that Ratzinger is unwilling to take responsibility in this case. As chief inquisitor for the Church he was more concerned about weeding out followers of Liberation theology, and Liberal priests like Father Mc Brian, Archbishop Romero, Fathers Camilo Torres, D'Escotto Gomez, Ernesto Cardenal etc. He didn't give a damn about sexual abuse. I believe that in the Church there is a clique of sexual abusers who protect each other.Ratzinger may be part of it because his brother ran a school where sexual Abuse took place, If the RC had the sense of the Orthodox Church they would allow priests to marry. The RC Church is one of the richest in the world and at the very least track these cases and provide adequate financial recompense to it's victims. But no, they are more interested in taking rather than giving. What comes around goes around, and I am confident that eventually justice will take place
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YOU WANT DOCUMENATION OF SEX ABUSE IN THE RC CHURCH.. HERE ARE THE LINKS http://www.rnw.nl/english/dossier/Church-child-sex-abuse http://rawstory.com/2009/2009/11/report-damns-irish-catholic-church-covering-evil-sex-abuse/ http://www.rickross.com/groups/clergy.html PAYOUT FOR SEX ABUSE IN RC CHURCH ROMAN CATHOLIC SEX ABUSE ARCHIVE 4 .. TRY 1, 2,3, TOO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Roman_Catholic_sex_abuse_cases/Archive_4 http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=sins ZILLIONS MORE. LOOK IN ARCHIVES ABOUT SELLING AND CLOSING OF RC CHURCH TO PAY OUT IN BOSTON USA AND OUTHER COUNTRIES ( NOW SAME STORY IN GERMANY IRELAND AND MOVING ON TO NETHERLANDS> 200 DEAF BOYS CRIME http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2010/03/wisconsin_priest_molests_200_d.php WHY DID THE RC CHURCH PROTECT.. BECAUSE THEY DON'T BELIEVE WHAT IS WRITTEN AND CLAIM WHAT IS NOT WRITTEN AS TRUTH FROM THE BIBLE. NEVER READ THE OLD TESTAMENT ( GREEK SEPTUAGINT) THUS CAN STATE WHAT IS IT NOT IN IT THUS THEY COVER ( THE SINS OF THEIR HOLY?FATHERS?) TO APPEAR HOLY.. BUT IT IS IN NEW GREEK TESTAMENT TOO DO NOT HARM A CHILD> It is better to tie a millstone around your neck and be thrown into the deepest part of the sea then to hurt my little ones? . ( IN LUKE).. www.speroforum.com › OUR PRIEST MARRY AND ALWAYS DID .. OUR ARCHBISHOPS ARE USUALLY WIDOWED THUS RC STATE THEY DONT MARRY.. NOT TRUE >. ALL OF THE APOSTLES OF JESUS WERE MARRIED (ALL) AND PETROS ( PETER WAS TOO ) AND BROUGHT HIS WIFE TO FUNCTIONS. AT TIMES IN GREEK BIBLE . THUS IF THE RC FOLLOWED THE BIBLE THEY WOULD HAVE LESS ABUSE AND NO CELIBACY RULES. AND BE MARRIED AS IS WRITTEN ICXC NIKA Greek Orthodox Katholikos ( Gr First Unviersal) Apostolic Christian Church of The First Greek Septuagint and the First Greek New Testament. ( for all) CODEX SINATICUS IN GREEK http://www.codexsinaiticus.org/en/ God is Not Mocked.( ALL WILL REAP WHAT THEY SOW. Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap" (Galatians 6:7). Here these brothers were some twenty years after ... www.pbc.org/files/messages/8234/4420.html

Sunday, August 14, 2011

how does my essay sound so far

how does my essay sound so far?
“The world esteems and respects the courage of ideas and the force of virtue” (Palmer 62). Much like his quote, Pope John Paul II was righteous and well revered, evident in the multitudes of crowds who flocked to see him each year. Pope John Paul II has led an extraordinary life which can be seen in his childhood, education, adult life, and accomplishments. Born on May 18, 1920 in the small Polish town of Wadowice, Karol Jozef Wojtyla was destined to do great things from the early years of his life. Being encouraged by his parents to work hard, at school Wojtlyla was both an excellent student and an athlete. Although he did not have a particularly smooth childhood, Wojtyla’s incredible motivation could be seen all his life. Even when his mother and brother both died before Karol turned 12, he remained strong and persistent. Through all his hardships as a young boy, as a student Karol was determined to learn and well disciplined. As a scholar, Wojtyla had a passion for theater and would also partake in literary discussion groups and poetry readings. By the time Karol was ordained the 264th pope of the Vatican, he had learned to speak 9 languages fluently while he began studying Spanish.
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good job
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Excellent!
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u wrote all that down just to see what people would say well i say it is kinda good
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you're on a roll!
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A lot of info, pretty good.
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The opening sentence needs work
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Keep it going. You are doing great so far.
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Sound really good. I used to proof read essays at the local college for students and you've got a good start. Now for a fantastic finish.
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Sounds like it is great.

Sunday, August 7, 2011

How would you like to be someone famous for the day

How would you like to be someone famous for the day?
LIke me, the Pope. You would get to hang out at the Vatican and wear the cool robes and little cap thing. There's a bit of praying and chanting to be done, but if you get it out of the way in the morning you could take the pope-mobile out for some circle work in the afternoon.
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<<<< :)
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I can live without that.
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I wouldn't.. what's the use?
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How can you be the Pope when I'm the pope!
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i wanna be the dead pope.. i wanna experience heaven. fo sure he's up there right?
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By the look of your avatar,I'm not surprised you chose the Pope. I'd choose someone like P-diddy, if I was sure I could be me after 24 hours.
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I wouldn't mind being Brad Pit - I think I may spend the whole day in bed.
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nope not the Pope, but maybe someone else famous.
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maybe Elvis. I want to pretend I'm dead and be in the F B I.
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Oh, ...you crazy Europeans and "Pope Worshipping".....Australia is in Europe, right?
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i would like to be beyonce so i can live rich and have fun wit kelly and Michelle and produce my own song xx
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I did that last week. I fell for the email spam and signed up... now the Catholics have my name, SS#, and Top 5 favorite saints. Allah knows what they're going to do with that info.
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OOOOH, can i be Little Debbie?
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Don't want to be one, but would like avatar to pay tribute to one. Love, Roscoe

Monday, August 1, 2011

The Catholic Church has its own justice system doesnt it

The Catholic Church has its own justice system doesnt it?
A Catholic priest charged with sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl in Minnesota is working in his home diocese in India and has no plans to return to the U.S. to face the courts, he and his bishop told The Associated Press on Monday. Once again the Vatican seem to think that those they have preaching for them are above normal human rights ?
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Ugh. Makes me want to lick an electrical outlet. Religion and the harm it does is purely sickening. But its cool, I guess. "God will forgive them."
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Yes it does have it's own justice system, it's called do nothing and hide what you can.
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Link please. More information would be nice, of course. If, for example, said priest was having major surgery on the day in which this 14 year old claims to have been sexually assaulted, then the priest really would have no reason to return. Always remember that an accusation is not the same as guilt. People seem to have forgotten that recently. As for having its own justice system - not really. Each individual is subject to the laws of the land in which they are living.
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Injustice system more like!
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If the U.S. wants him, let the U.S. arrange with India an extradition. What do you want the Vatican to do -- kidnap the guy?
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Yes it does. What you do is take the witch and if they refuse to admit their witchery you tie them to the stake and pile wood up around them and....... oh wait. i just read the rest of your question. What do you mean 'above human rights'. When has the church ever infringed anyones rights?
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Well... http://www.startribune.com/world/89900257.html It's quite common for foreigners to refuse to return to a country where they expect to face criminal charges - whether innocent or guilty. However, why doesn't the court demand his extradition? If such were the case, I wonder what his bishop's reaction would be? As it is, all his bishop is doing is abiding by the law. I'm not saying that's the most moral choice - but there seems to be no coverup here. It seems more along the lines of a simple case of "innocent until proven guilty." If you go to page 2, you'll see that the priest (naturally) denies the charges. So - isn't this simply a case of awaiting a legally-binding summons - that is, an extradition? The fact that the charges were not made until after he had returned to India also speak (very slightly) in his favor. It doesn't seem as if he "escaped" to India to avoid prosecution - merely that he chose to remain there to avoid prosecution. Now - innocent or guilty, wouldn't you do as he has done? If I (innocent) were charged with *that kind* of crime and was in a situation where I did not have to face such charges, I would probably choose to remain in that situation - wouldn't you? Jim
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The Doctrine of Celibacy means that the priest is a better Human being than anyone else, and therefore has the Divine Right to perform *Hocus Pocus* (sic) and turn The Communion Wafer and Wine into the ACTUAL Body and Blood of The Lord Jesus Christ (sic)! . I am not making this up- that is what they believe! There is NO WAY that a Roman Catholic can believe that a Protestant Church Communion has equal standing with theirs' -and be permitted by law to drive later the same day. . If it were accepted that "anybody" can dispense Communion, it seems they believe, their Big-for-nothing Church would collapse! A few controlled "scandals" to sway public opinion (WHAT happened? REALLY?) and it gets announced they're dropping celibacy? Is that the Plan? The other SuperHuman Power only Celibate Roman Catholic priests have is the Power to Forgive Sins. . Why should this not apply to the CLERGY, as well as to the LAYMEN AND WOMEN? If we say it doesn't, then the entire concept must be a sham!