For it is the liturgy through which especially in the divine sacrifice of the eucharist, the work of our redemption is accomplished..... But He (God) also willed that the work of salvation which they(the apostles) preached should be set in train through the sacrifice and sacraments, around which the entire liturgical life revolves......The liturgy is.....the fount from which all he (mother church) power flows. Refutation: According to God's word redemption(salvation) was accomplished by Christ in His sacrifice upon the cross and is received by faith Ephesians 1:7 Colossians 1:14 Hebrews 9:12 Rejecting God's Word rome insist that redemption remains yet to accomplished by the church;s liturgy. Catholicism's contradiciton of the scripture on this point is blatant and fatal one. Excerpts by Dave Hunt
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According to God's word redemption(salvation) was accomplished by Christ in His sacrifice upon the cross and is received by faith = divine sacrifice of the eucharist, the work of our redemption is accomplished
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Tampered quote, no citation, stupid interpretation. "For it is the liturgy through which, especially in the divine sacrifice of the Eucharist, "the work of our redemption is accomplished,"[1] and it is through the liturgy, especially, that the faithful are enabled to express in their lives and manifest to others the mystery of Christ and the real nature of the true Church. [2] The liturgy daily builds up those who are in the Church, making of them a holy temple of the Lord, a dwelling-place for God in the Spirit, [3] to the mature measure of the fullness of Christ. " THE CONSTITUTION ON THE SACRED LITURGY SACROSANCTUM CONCILIUM The initial quote is from a prayer for the ninth Sunday after Pentecost. 2 and 3 are Bible references [2] Cf. Heb. 13:14. [3] Cf. Eph. 2:21-22. ======================= Now of course you are arguing for Private Interpretation but afraid to come out in the open. Yes, "salvation was accomplished by Christ in His sacrifice upon the cross and is received by faith" BUT The Mass is not a separate Sacrifice !!! You know this if you've done any research at all. Any fairminded plaintiff would let the defendant make his own case, and here it is : "The Council of Trent reaffirmed traditional Christian teaching that the Mass is the same Sacrifice of Calvary offered in an unbloody manner: "The victim is one and the same: the same now offers through the ministry of priests, who then offered himself on the cross; only the manner of offering is different. And since in this divine sacrifice which is celebrated in the Mass, the same Christ who offered himself once in a bloody manner on the altar of the cross is contained and offered in an unbloody manner... this sacrifice is truly propitiatory" (Doctrina de ss. Missae sacrificio, c. 2, quoted in Catechism of the Catholic Church, 1367). The Council declared that Jesus instituted the Mass at his Last Supper: "He offered up to God the Father His own body and blood under the species of bread and wine; and, under the symbols of those same things, He delivered (His own body and blood) to be received by His apostles, whom He then constituted priests of the New Testament; and by those words, Do this in commemoration of me, He commanded them and their successors in the priesthood, to offer (them); even as the Catholic Church has always understood and taught."[2]" http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/10006a.htm
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We are not saved by faith or works. We are saved by the grace of God. One means, but not the only means, of receiving this grace is through the unbloody sacrifice of the Eucharist and the other sacraments.
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The liturgy celebrates the sacrifice. The Catholics are spot on with this one! They are correct. We are commanded to worship and to do good works as well. Faith without works is dead. from James Chapter 2 (James was the younger brother of Jesus)
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Why do you hate Catholics so much? It seems that you hate anything you don't agree exactly with. Christianity is about love and tolerance, not vehement hatred! But many people hate what they do not take time to understand or cannot understand.
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From the Catechism 1085 In the liturgy of the Church, it is principally his own Paschal mystery that Christ signifies and makes present. During his earthly life Jesus announced his Paschal mystery by his teaching and anticipated it by his actions. When his Hour comes, he lives out the unique event of history which does not pass away: Jesus dies, is buried, rises from the dead, and is seated at the right hand of the Father "once for all."8 His Paschal mystery is a real event that occurred in our history, but it is unique: all other historical events happen once, and then they pass away, swallowed up in the past. The Paschal mystery of Christ, by contrast, cannot remain only in the past, because by his death he destroyed death, and all that Christ is - all that he did and suffered for all men - participates in the divine eternity, and so transcends all times while being made present in them all. The event of the Cross and Resurrection abides and draws everything toward life. OH AND FYI THE CHURCH IS A "SHE" NOT A "HE" so what you posted was erroneous. May God have mercy on your soul for your hatred and Blasphemy of his Church.
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the statement is not errouneous, it is your understadning of th ebible that is off. The bible and the words of the vatican cannnot be contraditory by defeiniotn, if that wrer the case we would simply re-write the bible. Jesus is hte word of god, the bible contains the words of god. In any event there is nothign contraditory or errounous it is just that you do not understand the bible. I am sorry for you and I will pray, becasue you are unders the spell of the fahter of lies.
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Proves catholicism is not christian.
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That statement of Vat II does not in any way oppose the verses your cite The Mass and Sacraments of Christ are not an addition to or a repetition of Christ's Once-And-For-All_ Perfect Sacrifice of Calvary and the Empty Tomb but ,as St Paul said, " The showing forth of Christ's Death until he comes again" Redemption is accomplished by Christ's Incarnation, Death and resurrection and the sacraments and proclamation of God's Word (of which the celebration of the Sacraments are a major part) are channels of that grace You really do need to read the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the Documents of Vatican II (and of trent) carefully and objectively God bless and blessed Saturday Shabbat tomorrow
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Dave Hunt is not a reputable source of information. Have you actually examined the Liturgy for yourself? It actually *is* God's Word. Especially when you consider those parts of the Liturgy which are common across all sacramental churches, you're pretty much talking about text taken straight from the pages of the Bible.
