Not saying all, but a lot of the ones I meet wax nostalgically about the old days: Priest turning his back on his people, priest reading a language no one understands and no one speaks any longer to make sure that his congregation has no idea what's going on, no allowance for gay marriage, telling people that abortion is a sin, Catholics weren't allowed to divorce and remarry, Churches were dark and gloomy, people looked like they were going to a fashion parade or a funeral, not a fun place to praise the Lord, hymns were done on organs and electric guitars were forbidden....the church was a cold, dark place back then. Let's look at it today: Today's Catholic Church has reaped the fruits of the Reforms of Vatican II: we no longer have celibate priests, Catholics can divorce and remarry, abortion is no longer forbidden, women are given an active role in the church, Mass today is fun and jazzy and people understand it b/c it's in English instead of a dead language that keeps people in the dark, whereas in the old days people broke away from Catholicism like Lutherans and Episcopalians and Methodists, we don't have reformations any longer ---people are happy to be Catholic, so why do you cons want to undo the beautiful works of the 1960s that allowed our church to flower. Why do you want to go back to the dark ages of dead languages, dark and gloomy churches, celibate priests, anti-abortion, anti gay old school Catholicism. Source: twelve years of Catholic schooling (from 1st grade to senior year of high school) No, I have plenty of friends who are Catholic and are divorced and remarried. I also know a gay Catholic who attends Mass every Sunday and several of my Catholic friends have had abortions, so please stop saying that Catholics can't divorce or be gay or have abortions ---that went out with the 1950s. Times have changed. Maybe you'd rather be in a Cathedral hearing some dead language and hating gays and wanting to ban abortion.
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Most Catholics are Democrats. Does the name Kennedy ring a bell? Pelosi? Don't you even know your own party? Also, there is no Vatican II and your entire post is complete hogwash.
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You are mistaken priests are still supposed to be celibate abortion is still murder,Sex without marriage is still a sin,Gay marriage is moronic and you are probably making an attempt to be funny,FAIL
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Have you ever seen Dogma? "Buddy Jesus" says it all and the ridiculousness of it.
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When have Catholics ever been pro gay and pro abortion that's still the same as is probably child abuse so grow up and read that book of fiction you call a bible.
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The church has gone through many stages these past 2000 years. It falls into chaos, debauchery, and its distance from God increases from time to time. This has happened many times throughout the churches corrupt history. Conservative Catholics know all about it. They want their church close to God, as close as possible. Turning one's back on God's teachings, accepting, or promoting, "sin" is not how the church gets itself, or its people closer to God. The church might be more successful financially by reforming itself, may better fit into society, may better serve its flocks needs, but it doesn't serve God's mission, doesn't serve people's spiritual needs, doesn't bring people closer to God by doing so.
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Most Catholics are Democrats and child pedophiles
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You mean Like Joe Biden?
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You didn't learn much in that twelve years! NONE of your claims can be substantiated by ANY of the Catechism of the Catholic Church's contents.
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You have some of it right however I must inform you much of what you said is false. First of all abortion is has never been and never will be ok. It is murder and the church does stand firm on this issue. Sure there are Catholics who have had one however that does not change the fact that it is a sin in the eyes of the church. Gays yes of course are allowed to be Catholics that is not the issue the church has with them. The issue is acting upon their sexual desires, because they are forbidden by God. Marriage has always been always will be only between a man and a woman, even if "gay marriage" becomes the acceptable term does not make it so. You can call it what ever you like but that doesn't make it true. The majority of the priest do remain celibate, and the percentage of sex offending priests in the church is a great deal smaller than other christian denominations. As for divorce and remarrying, a marriage first has to be proven as invalid meaning there truly was never a marriage to begin with, this is called an annulment, its not the same as a divorce. Who ever said church has to be fun! That is not why you are there! Its great if you do enjoy it and have fun at mass but that is not why you should be going! Its not about having fun its about worshiping your God because you have made that commitment to! When you make a commitment to another person it isn't always going to be fun or enjoyable and a commitment to God is no different!
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When one spends many years or decades doing a thing a particular way, change can be unsettling. This is especially true when no choice or option is allowed. As you see in your list, there were a lot of changes made very quickly. I was 7 at the time so I adjusted quickly. Those who were much older had / have harder times. Did you know that is one reason why there are several Churches in NY now that have dispensations to say the Mass in Latin? Their congregations demanded them, and many people came to them when they went to Latin. Change is good. That doesn't mean people (have to) like it. Sadly, some of your conclusions are misinformed. I suggest looking more closely at particular details, such as 'not have celibate priests'. Roman Catholic Priests are still celibate, Episcopal and other denominations are not, and this predates (and has nothing to do with) Vatican II.
