What do you make of Pope Benedict XVI saying that Pope Pius XII worked secretly to save the Jews from Hitler?
Is this true? Did Pope Pius XII really, in fact, work secretly and silently to try and save the Jews from Hitler? Here is an article from the Catholic News Service. What do you think about it? Pope Benedict says Pope Pius worked bravely, secretly to help Jews By Carol Glatz Catholic News Service VATICAN CITY (CNS) – Pope Pius XII worked courageously, secretly and silently to help save Jews targeted by the Nazis' "criminal plan ... to eliminate them from the face of the earth," said Pope Benedict XVI. "Wherever possible, (Pope Pius) spared no effort in intervening in their favor" and providing organized assistance to the Jews either directly or through others, including Catholic religious institutes, Pope Benedict told participants in an international symposium dedicated to examining the papacy of Pope Pius. The pope held a Sept. 18 private audience at his summer residence south of Rome with some 80 attendees of the Sept. 15-17 symposium organized by the U.S.-based Pave the Way Foundation. Participants included members of the foundation and representatives of the Jewish community, including rabbis and scholars from around the world. The Vatican published a text of the remarks. Thanking the foundation for its efforts in seeking the truth, Pope Benedict said that "not all of the genuine facets" of Pope Pius' pontificate have been examined "in just light" in the 50 years since his death. Critics have said they believe Pope Pius did not speak out clearly enough in defense of the Jews during World War II or was indifferent toward the victims of Nazism. Pope Benedict said many of Pope Pius' efforts to support the Jews were "made secretly and silently" because "in that difficult historical moment, only in this way was it possible to avoid the worst and save the greatest number of Jews." Gary Krupp, Jewish founder and president of the Pave the Way Foundation, told the pope in his speech that "the Catholic Church under the pontificate of Pius XII was instrumental in saving the lives of as many as 860,000 Jews from certain death at Nazi hands." Krupp told Catholic News Service after the audience that Pope Benedict "was very appreciative" of the organization's extensive research, which had revealed clearly that the current negative perception of Pope Pius "is completely wrong." He presented the pope with nine video testimonies of Holocaust survivors and other eyewitnesses to Vatican humanitarian efforts, as well as the 200-page book of documentation compiled by the foundation and unveiled at the Rome symposium. Dozens of Jewish representatives who believed Pope Pius had done nothing to help the Jews during the Holocaust had been invited to the symposium. Many accepted the invitation, but some publicly critical of Pope Pius and representatives from three major Jewish museums did not attend even though the foundation had offered to pay for a live video feed if they were unable to travel to Rome. Symposium organizers wanted to convince curators of the Yad Vashem Holocaust Memorial in Jerusalem that a picture display of Pope Pius at the memorial is historically inaccurate and should be changed. The captions accompanying the pope's picture state he did nothing to condemn the Nazis and their slaughter of the Jews. David Nekrutman, executive director of the Israeli-based Center for Jewish-Christian Understanding and Cooperation, told CNS the exhibit at Yad Vashem should be taken down "until it's done correctly." The display makes the pope look like he was a Nazi collaborator "and that image affected me when I went to Yad Vashem in 1993; I automatically wrote off the Catholic Church from that image." He said he came to the symposium not knowing much about Pope Pius "but whatever I knew it was definitely bad." "The conference did enlighten me, that he did help, but what I am now trying to discover is to what extent," said Nekrutman. Perhaps people "place too much importance on the pope's position, figuring that if he had done something it would have saved who knows how many lives, I don't know. It's a learning process," he added. George Blumenthal, an American Jewish philanthropist and entrepreneur, told CNS the documents and testimonies unveiled at the symposium "will be the beginning of revolutionary knowledge" about the late pope. Perhaps, he said, it will take decades of bombarding people with the truth "like water wears away a rock one drip at a time" to erode the ignorance of the war years and prejudice surrounding Pope Pius. Though members of the Congregation for Saints' Causes voted unanimously in May 2007 to recommend Pope Benedict formally declare Pope Pius venerable, Pope Benedict put the cause on hold seven months later. Pope Benedict established a commission to study new archival material about his predecessor's papacy and to examine how his possible beatification would impact Catholic-Jewish and Vatican-Israeli relations. Jesuit Father Peter This, of course, goes against the conventional view that says the Pope during World War II did little or nothing to voice any opposition against Hitler.
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So what did Benedict XV do for my people? He let Stalin slaughter everyone behind the iron curtain by declaring "neutrality" of the Vatican. The only reason this is an issue with Pius XII, and I have to say it, but the Jewish people spoke up and made a stink about it. So if no one speaks up against the non-involvement of the Vatican in many issues concerning genocide, then the Vatican is relieved. They certainly knew about Rwanda before hand because the Virgin appeared there and told them that this would happen. Like what's up with the Vatican?
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Being one of Hitler's Youths, Benny boy must have been peeved.
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I'm certainly willing to consider any new evidence that sheds light on this issue. I would have to read more about it, see exactly what this new research entails. Even if it is true, I would've liked to have seen Pope Pius make more public statements, to tell you the truth. I think a Pope should be courageous, even to the point of risking his own life. This new evidence may help a little, but I think most people are like me in wanting their Pope to be outspoken about justice.
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If they have new documents, that prove to be genuine and indicate that Pius XII did more than was previously known, then I will revise my opinion. Going of the current information that I have Pius worked very secretly and very silently indeed. So secretly and silently that it looked like he was having zero effect at all. I still wonder what would have happened if he had come out and directly called the Nazis on this. From my point of view, to know that this is happening, but to ignore it is immoral. We can argue the toss on whether by being able to operate within Germany allowed sympathetic priests to help the Jews, or whether coming out and condemning the Final Solution would have opened up enough German's eyes to see that their Fuhrer was not their savior, but a small-minded, xenophobic lunatic. While many Catholic priests definitely did help smuggle Jews out of Germany and the occupied lands I see no indication that this was anything but a personal/local effort. There were also some that happily handed over names and people to the Germans. We will have to see what is made of these new documents.
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It is a crock of bull. The Pope was more interested in protecting the Catholic Church in Germany than anything else. He even made a deal with Hitler. The Pope did not do a think when the Germans started rounding up the Jews within sight of the Vatican. The Pope was wrong then and the Pope is wrong now.
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I believe the Bible. That church IS the woman that controls the reins of the beast. History shows that church HAD the government persecute and murder people during the Inquisition. God calls that church's cooperation with governments "fornication". This is just their latest attempt at plausible deniability. This many years after the events, I DON'T BELIEVE IT.
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Right how many Catholics fort for Mussolini 10 million 20 million?
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Pius 12 was doing what he could, which was be 2 faced. He had one face for the Germans incase they won the war, he had to find a place for his flock so he wouldn't lose all his power, and one moral face where he worked in secret to help humans in trouble. If the first face found out about the 2nd, he would go with the Germans, since it seemed like they would win the war.
Wednesday, September 21, 2011
Wednesday, September 14, 2011
Imagine "America" is your child and you "love it" like Obama and Wright,would it have PTSD? Would CPS take it
Imagine "America" is your child and you "love it" like Obama and Wright,would it have PTSD? Would CPS take it?
Imagine saying you "Love" something so much you must hate it and goddamn it (loved it when the Pope, who's German and lives in Vatican City said "God Bless America") and gut and rape it. If you love something like your country or your child, you treat it with respect and work to change it, not constantly disparage it, damn it, hate it, call it "mean" and say that it gives you no pride whatsoever. I just do not believe for one second that Obama nor Wright have anything but disdain for this great country.
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I SAY AMEN TO THAT. He does not belong in the White HOUSE.
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There's nothing wrong with slapping it around a little bit to establish who's boss. Besides, some days you come home all frustrated from a tough day of living the life of an upper class citizen and you just feel like hitting something, you know?
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you are too cynical to the media you just believe everything you hear in the media without using you own brain
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Amen, my brother! Looks like hate speech has paid off for both Barack (his books and his current minions donating millions) and Wright (his million dollar home in a predominantly white neighborhood)
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i agree
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If the US were my beloved young daughter I, I would dispense tough-love. I would give her an allowance, and if she spent it and asked for more, I would teach her the value of thrift and living within her means by not acquiescing. She would not be allowed to bring her friends to play in our house without my permission. I would insist that she goes to school and studies, before allowing her to go out and play I would take her to church every Sunday and teach her right from wrong. I would punish her severely if I found out that she was doing drugs, drinking or anything else illegal. If America were my daughter I would prepare her for life and not concerned if she liked me, that would be selfish, I would prepare her for life.
Imagine saying you "Love" something so much you must hate it and goddamn it (loved it when the Pope, who's German and lives in Vatican City said "God Bless America") and gut and rape it. If you love something like your country or your child, you treat it with respect and work to change it, not constantly disparage it, damn it, hate it, call it "mean" and say that it gives you no pride whatsoever. I just do not believe for one second that Obama nor Wright have anything but disdain for this great country.
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I SAY AMEN TO THAT. He does not belong in the White HOUSE.
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There's nothing wrong with slapping it around a little bit to establish who's boss. Besides, some days you come home all frustrated from a tough day of living the life of an upper class citizen and you just feel like hitting something, you know?
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you are too cynical to the media you just believe everything you hear in the media without using you own brain
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Amen, my brother! Looks like hate speech has paid off for both Barack (his books and his current minions donating millions) and Wright (his million dollar home in a predominantly white neighborhood)
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i agree
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If the US were my beloved young daughter I, I would dispense tough-love. I would give her an allowance, and if she spent it and asked for more, I would teach her the value of thrift and living within her means by not acquiescing. She would not be allowed to bring her friends to play in our house without my permission. I would insist that she goes to school and studies, before allowing her to go out and play I would take her to church every Sunday and teach her right from wrong. I would punish her severely if I found out that she was doing drugs, drinking or anything else illegal. If America were my daughter I would prepare her for life and not concerned if she liked me, that would be selfish, I would prepare her for life.
Wednesday, September 7, 2011
John Paul II behind Parkinson Disease cure
John Paul II behind Parkinson Disease cure?
"For this to happen, the Vatican must declare the person to have performed a miracle. In John Paul's case, a 49-year-old French nun, Sister Marie Simon-Pierre Normand, said she and her fellow nuns prayed for the intercession of the pope after his death to cure her from Parkinson's Disease. Her sudden cure had no logical medical explanation and she later resumed her work as a maternity nurse, the Vatican says. There have been reports that Sister Marie has fallen ILL AGAIN since her recovery and that her DIAGNOSIS with Parkinson's Disease may have been INCORRECT." How are they going to rationalize it? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13248101
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this pope stuff is crazy
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Oops ...... They made a mistake, they had better put him back in his grave until a real miracle(s) occur(s). RIP Pope John Paul 11
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The problem is they get gullible,superstitious dudes to assess the alleged miracles instead of putting it to the JREF for investigation.
"For this to happen, the Vatican must declare the person to have performed a miracle. In John Paul's case, a 49-year-old French nun, Sister Marie Simon-Pierre Normand, said she and her fellow nuns prayed for the intercession of the pope after his death to cure her from Parkinson's Disease. Her sudden cure had no logical medical explanation and she later resumed her work as a maternity nurse, the Vatican says. There have been reports that Sister Marie has fallen ILL AGAIN since her recovery and that her DIAGNOSIS with Parkinson's Disease may have been INCORRECT." How are they going to rationalize it? http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-13248101
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this pope stuff is crazy
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Oops ...... They made a mistake, they had better put him back in his grave until a real miracle(s) occur(s). RIP Pope John Paul 11
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The problem is they get gullible,superstitious dudes to assess the alleged miracles instead of putting it to the JREF for investigation.
Thursday, September 1, 2011
Why is religion so corrupt and dishonest
Why is religion so corrupt and dishonest?
-There is no God. I have to be given proof to believe in something. I can't make myself believe in God if I have no proof of him. I have been given no proof God exists. Science has proven to us all that matter can be created out of nothing and that God did not create the earth. Matter created life and the earth, not God. -Many priests are child predators and more and more are being discovered. Catholics keep saying it won't happen again, but it keeps happening. -Religion tells you that if you don't follow God's rules, God will cast you to hell and you will suffer forever. What kind of God would rule that way? That's right, no God would. religion tells you stuff that can work to their advantage. -Religion influences people to fight over who's God is better, and those fights turn into wars. -The Vatican holds so much treasure and valuables that could work to help cure cancer or give children in Africa something to eat for dinner. The Vatican holds a large amount of the world's money That money they got through Crusades, killing their enemies, and lying to everyone. -Religion used to crush all their opponents. They would kill scientists who would tell the world facts that humanity wanted to know, but the church killed and mutilated those scientists and lied to cover up their tracks.
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Religion isn't, people are and not all of them as bad as you proclaim. I think to attribute everything wrong in the world to religion when you do not believe in God is the ultimate "boogey-man" excuse. But it does give you an opportunity to rant and advance your cause.
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All things involving man contain elements of dishonesty and corruption. No exceptions.
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religion is a waste of time. its really about a RELATIONSHIP with the one TRUE GOD and the ONE SAVIOR Jesus Christ.
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OK first off, not all religions or religious leaders are corrupt and dishonest. Second, science has not proved that matter can be created out of nothing. You don't really believe that do you? Pedophiles exist in all walks of life. The church was indeed wrong for covering it up though. Many religions are nonviolent and never encourage fighting or wars. But the Vatican does surely have a responsibility to help with all of that money.
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Human Nature is corrupt so every people group will be. Doesn't mean you throw it all away. You kid yourself when you say you need proof. You believe in atoms and molecules and electrons. You can't see them individually but you believe they're there because of evidence. Its the same with God. There is evidence He is there you just choose not to believe. Jesus loves you.
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Are you talking about Catholicism?
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Let me start with your main question, and if time permits, I'll move on to some of the other issues. The answer is simple. All religions are of man. Man is incapable of being perfect so his theologies and religious dogmas are corrupt. Now that was easy. Lets move on a bit. It is your very own opinion that God does not exist. Don't feel bad as there are many others in the world that feel the same as you. You put all your faith in man and this makes you comfortable. You are probably a young man with little life experience. I can understand this as I a very long time ago was young to. If the existence of god is so important to you that you would take time out of your busy day to drop in here and tell the world how you feel about it, then maybe you have the time to test the world that you trust and put it up against God. Go out into a deserted place with all your comforts. Say two days worth. After that, trust in the world for your survival. Your world will let you down every time. If God sent you to this place, He will meet your every need as is His promise. God is so close to you right now but you can't see Him. Why not give Him a chance. Ask Him for eyes that see.><>end
-There is no God. I have to be given proof to believe in something. I can't make myself believe in God if I have no proof of him. I have been given no proof God exists. Science has proven to us all that matter can be created out of nothing and that God did not create the earth. Matter created life and the earth, not God. -Many priests are child predators and more and more are being discovered. Catholics keep saying it won't happen again, but it keeps happening. -Religion tells you that if you don't follow God's rules, God will cast you to hell and you will suffer forever. What kind of God would rule that way? That's right, no God would. religion tells you stuff that can work to their advantage. -Religion influences people to fight over who's God is better, and those fights turn into wars. -The Vatican holds so much treasure and valuables that could work to help cure cancer or give children in Africa something to eat for dinner. The Vatican holds a large amount of the world's money That money they got through Crusades, killing their enemies, and lying to everyone. -Religion used to crush all their opponents. They would kill scientists who would tell the world facts that humanity wanted to know, but the church killed and mutilated those scientists and lied to cover up their tracks.
Religion & Spirituality - 7 Answers
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Religion isn't, people are and not all of them as bad as you proclaim. I think to attribute everything wrong in the world to religion when you do not believe in God is the ultimate "boogey-man" excuse. But it does give you an opportunity to rant and advance your cause.
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All things involving man contain elements of dishonesty and corruption. No exceptions.
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religion is a waste of time. its really about a RELATIONSHIP with the one TRUE GOD and the ONE SAVIOR Jesus Christ.
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OK first off, not all religions or religious leaders are corrupt and dishonest. Second, science has not proved that matter can be created out of nothing. You don't really believe that do you? Pedophiles exist in all walks of life. The church was indeed wrong for covering it up though. Many religions are nonviolent and never encourage fighting or wars. But the Vatican does surely have a responsibility to help with all of that money.
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Human Nature is corrupt so every people group will be. Doesn't mean you throw it all away. You kid yourself when you say you need proof. You believe in atoms and molecules and electrons. You can't see them individually but you believe they're there because of evidence. Its the same with God. There is evidence He is there you just choose not to believe. Jesus loves you.
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Are you talking about Catholicism?
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Let me start with your main question, and if time permits, I'll move on to some of the other issues. The answer is simple. All religions are of man. Man is incapable of being perfect so his theologies and religious dogmas are corrupt. Now that was easy. Lets move on a bit. It is your very own opinion that God does not exist. Don't feel bad as there are many others in the world that feel the same as you. You put all your faith in man and this makes you comfortable. You are probably a young man with little life experience. I can understand this as I a very long time ago was young to. If the existence of god is so important to you that you would take time out of your busy day to drop in here and tell the world how you feel about it, then maybe you have the time to test the world that you trust and put it up against God. Go out into a deserted place with all your comforts. Say two days worth. After that, trust in the world for your survival. Your world will let you down every time. If God sent you to this place, He will meet your every need as is His promise. God is so close to you right now but you can't see Him. Why not give Him a chance. Ask Him for eyes that see.><>end
Sunday, August 21, 2011
Why did Catholic church protect the priest who sexually abused 200 deaf boys at a catholic school
Why did Catholic church protect the priest who sexually abused 200 deaf boys at a catholic school?
New york times on Thursday published fresh allegation that catholic church was more interested in protecting Lawrence Murphy, who worked at the former st john's school for the deaf in st Francis, Wisconsin, according to new york times, abused sexually 200 school boys. The request to probe into this sex scandal was denied by vatican. http://beta.thehindu.com/news/international/article304891.ece
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They tried to have a hearing... *groan*
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It would have just fallen on deaf ears anyways **groan**
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Because they are bad?
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There is a lot of evil happening in God's church , yet all those people who coverd up and abused will surely answer to God.
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Please don't omit the fact that the current Pope was the one who actually dismissed any investigation into the allegations.
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Any bureaucracy protects its own.
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Because for years they have swept these molestation cases under the rug, all in the name of protecting their image. Well, God has made sure that these horrible doings have come to light, so that everyone in the world will see the wickedness that can happen ANYWHERE, including a church. IF the priest was shielded and protected, God will judge all churches, not just the Catholic Church for hiding such terrible perversions from within its walls and failing to do anything about it. Children should be protected and nurtured, not abused. God's wrath will be made known.
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I don't agree with how it was handled (I am not catholic anyway), but I understand the era and the times when this happened. I also understand the news was brought forth rather late in the person's life who was accused. The person is dead and has been for a long time. I think if you really examine the FACTS you would see that one of the people claiming to be abused did bring their information to the local authorities who did NOTHING. Why blame the church when even the local secular government did nothing? Want to fish for a blame game I guess. The real issue is why people did not press on the issue at the time and let it go. Very disappointing.
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Because the Church authorities, Herr Ratzinger at the helm, preferred to let those boys suffer injustice rather than to cause scandal to the Church. It's truly heinous and supports my belief that Joseph Ratzinger is a morally bankrupt man who got to be Pope through political wheeling/dealing. Luckily the vast majority of Catholic priests are hardworking, prayerful, dedicated men. It isn't fair to judge them by the actions of a tiny minority of abusers.
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did you even READ the whole article let alone comprehend a couple points.... the vatican was alerted AFTER the police had dropped the charges due to lack of evidence the vatican was contacted again about the incident 40 years later where were the parents? where were the kids themselves once they became adults? do you even have CLUE as to how molestation was seen in the 50's and 60's -- as a sexual problem NOT a mental one, people were recommended therapy not criminal charges.
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NEW YORK TIMES TRIES TO KEEP FLAME ALIVE March 26, 2010 Catholic League president Bill Donohue addresses today's New York Times news story on the pope: "Pope Was Told Pedophile Priest Would Get Transfer." That's the headline in today's New York Times piece on the pope. Yet the Times offers absolutely no evidence to support this charge. All it says is that his office "was copied on a memo" about the transfer of Peter Hullermann. According to Church officials, the story says the memo was routine and was "unlikely to have landed on the archbishop's desk." Let's say Archbishop Joseph Ratzinger, now the pope, did in fact learn of the transfer. So what? Wasn't that what he expected to happen? After all, we know from a March 16 Times story that when Ratzinger's subordinates recommended therapy for Hullermann, he approved it. That was the drill of the day: after being treated, the patient (I prefer the term offender) returns to work. It's still the drill of the day in many secular quarters today, particularly in the public schools. A more hard-line approach, obviously, makes more sense, but the therapeutic industry is very powerful. In other words, there is no real news in today's news story. So why print it? To keep the flame alive. Look for the Times to run another story saying they have proof Ratzinger knew of the transfer. Did they think that after he approved the therapy that Hullermann would be sent to the Gulag? Yesterday's Times story on the half-century old case concerning Father Lawrence Murphy will be the subject of an op-ed page ad in Tuesday's New York Times. Meanwhile, I am taking advantage of every TV opportunity to set the record straight. The pope is a great man, and the Catholic League is proud to stand by him. _____________________________________________________________ NEW YORK TIMES AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH March 25, 2010 Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments today on the front-page article in today's New York Times about priestly sexual abuse: Media requests to deal with this subject make it difficult to provide an adequate response to today's article by Laurie Goodstein. But the time has come to ask some serious questions about why the Times is working overtime with wholly discredited lawyers to uncover dirt in the Catholic Church that occurred a half-century ago. Those questions will be raised in an ad I am writing that will be published in next Tuesday's New York Times; a rejoinder to the article will also be made. All I can say now is that this is the last straw. ___________________________________________________________ MEDIA MOSTLY IGNORE SEX ABUSE DATA March 24, 2010 Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments on the way the media are reacting to the 2009 annual report on priestly sexual abuse that was just released by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops: There was a 36 percent decline in allegations of clergy sexual abuse between 2008 and 2009. As usual, most of the alleged offenders are either dead and buried, have already been thrown out of the priesthood, or are missing. There were six allegations made in 2009 involving minors. Six. As always, males are the preferred target. The report gave an age breakdown but did not mention the significant role played by homosexuals. Media reports never mentioned it either. Here's how the media responded. AP ran a story of 864 words, but most newspapers ignored it: only two—the Asbury Park Press and the News Journal (Wilmington)—decided to run it. The Washington Post did a responsible job by covering it in 505 words. The St. Paul Pioneer Press also offered a decent summary. By contrast, the New York Times ran a 92-word article. The Chicago Tribune did much the same. None of the other big dailies—from the Catholic-bashing Boston Globe to the reliably anti-Catholic Los Angeles Times—even bothered to mention it. NPR gave it short mention, but the broadcast and cable stations ignored it. It's all so predictable. Bad news about the Catholic Church is front-page news, but good news goes largely ignored. To those who say it's no different with any other group, consider this. The AP reports today that a rabbi accused of raping a 7-year-old girl in New York a decade ago was arrested yesterday outside his Arizona synagogue. Aside from a very brief article in the New York Daily News, not a single newspaper in New York or Arizona—or anywhere else—bothered to print it. _______________________________________________________________ You, sir, are just another bigot on a witch hunt.
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I am truly surprised your question is still here since others have posted and their question was deleted. I am truly pis..ed at the pope and all the bas..ds getting away for so long and no judgment ever went trough ! The big silence ! I am a Catholic raised this way and am no longer proud ! I no longer wish to be a Catholic ! In the last months there are more and more scandals coming out but what really made me so angry ? Is when the pope wanted to have Pie XII canonized !!!!!!!!Bas..d ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Pius_XII#Cause_for_canonization
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Dont worry theres a millstone in gods hand waiting to sink them in the eternal pit
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Vatican officials who spoke on background said The New York Times story was unfair because it ignored the fact that, at the urging of Cardinal Ratzinger himself, new procedures to deal with priest abusers were put in place in 2002, including measures making it easier to laicize them. "This would be handled differently today, based on jurisprudence and experience," one Vatican official told Catholic News Service. "But you can't accuse people of not applying in 1998 a principle that was established in 2002."
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It does not surprise me in the least that Ratzinger is unwilling to take responsibility in this case. As chief inquisitor for the Church he was more concerned about weeding out followers of Liberation theology, and Liberal priests like Father Mc Brian, Archbishop Romero, Fathers Camilo Torres, D'Escotto Gomez, Ernesto Cardenal etc. He didn't give a damn about sexual abuse. I believe that in the Church there is a clique of sexual abusers who protect each other.Ratzinger may be part of it because his brother ran a school where sexual Abuse took place, If the RC had the sense of the Orthodox Church they would allow priests to marry. The RC Church is one of the richest in the world and at the very least track these cases and provide adequate financial recompense to it's victims. But no, they are more interested in taking rather than giving. What comes around goes around, and I am confident that eventually justice will take place
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YOU WANT DOCUMENATION OF SEX ABUSE IN THE RC CHURCH.. HERE ARE THE LINKS http://www.rnw.nl/english/dossier/Church-child-sex-abuse http://rawstory.com/2009/2009/11/report-damns-irish-catholic-church-covering-evil-sex-abuse/ http://www.rickross.com/groups/clergy.html PAYOUT FOR SEX ABUSE IN RC CHURCH ROMAN CATHOLIC SEX ABUSE ARCHIVE 4 .. TRY 1, 2,3, TOO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Roman_Catholic_sex_abuse_cases/Archive_4 http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=sins ZILLIONS MORE. LOOK IN ARCHIVES ABOUT SELLING AND CLOSING OF RC CHURCH TO PAY OUT IN BOSTON USA AND OUTHER COUNTRIES ( NOW SAME STORY IN GERMANY IRELAND AND MOVING ON TO NETHERLANDS> 200 DEAF BOYS CRIME http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2010/03/wisconsin_priest_molests_200_d.php WHY DID THE RC CHURCH PROTECT.. BECAUSE THEY DON'T BELIEVE WHAT IS WRITTEN AND CLAIM WHAT IS NOT WRITTEN AS TRUTH FROM THE BIBLE. NEVER READ THE OLD TESTAMENT ( GREEK SEPTUAGINT) THUS CAN STATE WHAT IS IT NOT IN IT THUS THEY COVER ( THE SINS OF THEIR HOLY?FATHERS?) TO APPEAR HOLY.. BUT IT IS IN NEW GREEK TESTAMENT TOO DO NOT HARM A CHILD> It is better to tie a millstone around your neck and be thrown into the deepest part of the sea then to hurt my little ones? . ( IN LUKE).. www.speroforum.com › OUR PRIEST MARRY AND ALWAYS DID .. OUR ARCHBISHOPS ARE USUALLY WIDOWED THUS RC STATE THEY DONT MARRY.. NOT TRUE >. ALL OF THE APOSTLES OF JESUS WERE MARRIED (ALL) AND PETROS ( PETER WAS TOO ) AND BROUGHT HIS WIFE TO FUNCTIONS. AT TIMES IN GREEK BIBLE . THUS IF THE RC FOLLOWED THE BIBLE THEY WOULD HAVE LESS ABUSE AND NO CELIBACY RULES. AND BE MARRIED AS IS WRITTEN ICXC NIKA Greek Orthodox Katholikos ( Gr First Unviersal) Apostolic Christian Church of The First Greek Septuagint and the First Greek New Testament. ( for all) CODEX SINATICUS IN GREEK http://www.codexsinaiticus.org/en/ God is Not Mocked.( ALL WILL REAP WHAT THEY SOW. Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap" (Galatians 6:7). Here these brothers were some twenty years after ... www.pbc.org/files/messages/8234/4420.html
New york times on Thursday published fresh allegation that catholic church was more interested in protecting Lawrence Murphy, who worked at the former st john's school for the deaf in st Francis, Wisconsin, according to new york times, abused sexually 200 school boys. The request to probe into this sex scandal was denied by vatican. http://beta.thehindu.com/news/international/article304891.ece
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They tried to have a hearing... *groan*
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It would have just fallen on deaf ears anyways **groan**
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Because they are bad?
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There is a lot of evil happening in God's church , yet all those people who coverd up and abused will surely answer to God.
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Please don't omit the fact that the current Pope was the one who actually dismissed any investigation into the allegations.
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Any bureaucracy protects its own.
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Because for years they have swept these molestation cases under the rug, all in the name of protecting their image. Well, God has made sure that these horrible doings have come to light, so that everyone in the world will see the wickedness that can happen ANYWHERE, including a church. IF the priest was shielded and protected, God will judge all churches, not just the Catholic Church for hiding such terrible perversions from within its walls and failing to do anything about it. Children should be protected and nurtured, not abused. God's wrath will be made known.
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I don't agree with how it was handled (I am not catholic anyway), but I understand the era and the times when this happened. I also understand the news was brought forth rather late in the person's life who was accused. The person is dead and has been for a long time. I think if you really examine the FACTS you would see that one of the people claiming to be abused did bring their information to the local authorities who did NOTHING. Why blame the church when even the local secular government did nothing? Want to fish for a blame game I guess. The real issue is why people did not press on the issue at the time and let it go. Very disappointing.
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Because the Church authorities, Herr Ratzinger at the helm, preferred to let those boys suffer injustice rather than to cause scandal to the Church. It's truly heinous and supports my belief that Joseph Ratzinger is a morally bankrupt man who got to be Pope through political wheeling/dealing. Luckily the vast majority of Catholic priests are hardworking, prayerful, dedicated men. It isn't fair to judge them by the actions of a tiny minority of abusers.
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did you even READ the whole article let alone comprehend a couple points.... the vatican was alerted AFTER the police had dropped the charges due to lack of evidence the vatican was contacted again about the incident 40 years later where were the parents? where were the kids themselves once they became adults? do you even have CLUE as to how molestation was seen in the 50's and 60's -- as a sexual problem NOT a mental one, people were recommended therapy not criminal charges.
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NEW YORK TIMES TRIES TO KEEP FLAME ALIVE March 26, 2010 Catholic League president Bill Donohue addresses today's New York Times news story on the pope: "Pope Was Told Pedophile Priest Would Get Transfer." That's the headline in today's New York Times piece on the pope. Yet the Times offers absolutely no evidence to support this charge. All it says is that his office "was copied on a memo" about the transfer of Peter Hullermann. According to Church officials, the story says the memo was routine and was "unlikely to have landed on the archbishop's desk." Let's say Archbishop Joseph Ratzinger, now the pope, did in fact learn of the transfer. So what? Wasn't that what he expected to happen? After all, we know from a March 16 Times story that when Ratzinger's subordinates recommended therapy for Hullermann, he approved it. That was the drill of the day: after being treated, the patient (I prefer the term offender) returns to work. It's still the drill of the day in many secular quarters today, particularly in the public schools. A more hard-line approach, obviously, makes more sense, but the therapeutic industry is very powerful. In other words, there is no real news in today's news story. So why print it? To keep the flame alive. Look for the Times to run another story saying they have proof Ratzinger knew of the transfer. Did they think that after he approved the therapy that Hullermann would be sent to the Gulag? Yesterday's Times story on the half-century old case concerning Father Lawrence Murphy will be the subject of an op-ed page ad in Tuesday's New York Times. Meanwhile, I am taking advantage of every TV opportunity to set the record straight. The pope is a great man, and the Catholic League is proud to stand by him. _____________________________________________________________ NEW YORK TIMES AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH March 25, 2010 Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments today on the front-page article in today's New York Times about priestly sexual abuse: Media requests to deal with this subject make it difficult to provide an adequate response to today's article by Laurie Goodstein. But the time has come to ask some serious questions about why the Times is working overtime with wholly discredited lawyers to uncover dirt in the Catholic Church that occurred a half-century ago. Those questions will be raised in an ad I am writing that will be published in next Tuesday's New York Times; a rejoinder to the article will also be made. All I can say now is that this is the last straw. ___________________________________________________________ MEDIA MOSTLY IGNORE SEX ABUSE DATA March 24, 2010 Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments on the way the media are reacting to the 2009 annual report on priestly sexual abuse that was just released by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops: There was a 36 percent decline in allegations of clergy sexual abuse between 2008 and 2009. As usual, most of the alleged offenders are either dead and buried, have already been thrown out of the priesthood, or are missing. There were six allegations made in 2009 involving minors. Six. As always, males are the preferred target. The report gave an age breakdown but did not mention the significant role played by homosexuals. Media reports never mentioned it either. Here's how the media responded. AP ran a story of 864 words, but most newspapers ignored it: only two—the Asbury Park Press and the News Journal (Wilmington)—decided to run it. The Washington Post did a responsible job by covering it in 505 words. The St. Paul Pioneer Press also offered a decent summary. By contrast, the New York Times ran a 92-word article. The Chicago Tribune did much the same. None of the other big dailies—from the Catholic-bashing Boston Globe to the reliably anti-Catholic Los Angeles Times—even bothered to mention it. NPR gave it short mention, but the broadcast and cable stations ignored it. It's all so predictable. Bad news about the Catholic Church is front-page news, but good news goes largely ignored. To those who say it's no different with any other group, consider this. The AP reports today that a rabbi accused of raping a 7-year-old girl in New York a decade ago was arrested yesterday outside his Arizona synagogue. Aside from a very brief article in the New York Daily News, not a single newspaper in New York or Arizona—or anywhere else—bothered to print it. _______________________________________________________________ You, sir, are just another bigot on a witch hunt.
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I am truly surprised your question is still here since others have posted and their question was deleted. I am truly pis..ed at the pope and all the bas..ds getting away for so long and no judgment ever went trough ! The big silence ! I am a Catholic raised this way and am no longer proud ! I no longer wish to be a Catholic ! In the last months there are more and more scandals coming out but what really made me so angry ? Is when the pope wanted to have Pie XII canonized !!!!!!!!Bas..d ! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Pius_XII#Cause_for_canonization
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Dont worry theres a millstone in gods hand waiting to sink them in the eternal pit
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Vatican officials who spoke on background said The New York Times story was unfair because it ignored the fact that, at the urging of Cardinal Ratzinger himself, new procedures to deal with priest abusers were put in place in 2002, including measures making it easier to laicize them. "This would be handled differently today, based on jurisprudence and experience," one Vatican official told Catholic News Service. "But you can't accuse people of not applying in 1998 a principle that was established in 2002."
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It does not surprise me in the least that Ratzinger is unwilling to take responsibility in this case. As chief inquisitor for the Church he was more concerned about weeding out followers of Liberation theology, and Liberal priests like Father Mc Brian, Archbishop Romero, Fathers Camilo Torres, D'Escotto Gomez, Ernesto Cardenal etc. He didn't give a damn about sexual abuse. I believe that in the Church there is a clique of sexual abusers who protect each other.Ratzinger may be part of it because his brother ran a school where sexual Abuse took place, If the RC had the sense of the Orthodox Church they would allow priests to marry. The RC Church is one of the richest in the world and at the very least track these cases and provide adequate financial recompense to it's victims. But no, they are more interested in taking rather than giving. What comes around goes around, and I am confident that eventually justice will take place
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YOU WANT DOCUMENATION OF SEX ABUSE IN THE RC CHURCH.. HERE ARE THE LINKS http://www.rnw.nl/english/dossier/Church-child-sex-abuse http://rawstory.com/2009/2009/11/report-damns-irish-catholic-church-covering-evil-sex-abuse/ http://www.rickross.com/groups/clergy.html PAYOUT FOR SEX ABUSE IN RC CHURCH ROMAN CATHOLIC SEX ABUSE ARCHIVE 4 .. TRY 1, 2,3, TOO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Roman_Catholic_sex_abuse_cases/Archive_4 http://www.ianpaisley.org/article.asp?ArtKey=sins ZILLIONS MORE. LOOK IN ARCHIVES ABOUT SELLING AND CLOSING OF RC CHURCH TO PAY OUT IN BOSTON USA AND OUTHER COUNTRIES ( NOW SAME STORY IN GERMANY IRELAND AND MOVING ON TO NETHERLANDS> 200 DEAF BOYS CRIME http://scienceblogs.com/dispatches/2010/03/wisconsin_priest_molests_200_d.php WHY DID THE RC CHURCH PROTECT.. BECAUSE THEY DON'T BELIEVE WHAT IS WRITTEN AND CLAIM WHAT IS NOT WRITTEN AS TRUTH FROM THE BIBLE. NEVER READ THE OLD TESTAMENT ( GREEK SEPTUAGINT) THUS CAN STATE WHAT IS IT NOT IN IT THUS THEY COVER ( THE SINS OF THEIR HOLY?FATHERS?) TO APPEAR HOLY.. BUT IT IS IN NEW GREEK TESTAMENT TOO DO NOT HARM A CHILD> It is better to tie a millstone around your neck and be thrown into the deepest part of the sea then to hurt my little ones? . ( IN LUKE).. www.speroforum.com › OUR PRIEST MARRY AND ALWAYS DID .. OUR ARCHBISHOPS ARE USUALLY WIDOWED THUS RC STATE THEY DONT MARRY.. NOT TRUE >. ALL OF THE APOSTLES OF JESUS WERE MARRIED (ALL) AND PETROS ( PETER WAS TOO ) AND BROUGHT HIS WIFE TO FUNCTIONS. AT TIMES IN GREEK BIBLE . THUS IF THE RC FOLLOWED THE BIBLE THEY WOULD HAVE LESS ABUSE AND NO CELIBACY RULES. AND BE MARRIED AS IS WRITTEN ICXC NIKA Greek Orthodox Katholikos ( Gr First Unviersal) Apostolic Christian Church of The First Greek Septuagint and the First Greek New Testament. ( for all) CODEX SINATICUS IN GREEK http://www.codexsinaiticus.org/en/ God is Not Mocked.( ALL WILL REAP WHAT THEY SOW. Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for whatever a man sows, this he will also reap" (Galatians 6:7). Here these brothers were some twenty years after ... www.pbc.org/files/messages/8234/4420.html
Sunday, August 14, 2011
how does my essay sound so far
how does my essay sound so far?
“The world esteems and respects the courage of ideas and the force of virtue†(Palmer 62). Much like his quote, Pope John Paul II was righteous and well revered, evident in the multitudes of crowds who flocked to see him each year. Pope John Paul II has led an extraordinary life which can be seen in his childhood, education, adult life, and accomplishments. Born on May 18, 1920 in the small Polish town of Wadowice, Karol Jozef Wojtyla was destined to do great things from the early years of his life. Being encouraged by his parents to work hard, at school Wojtlyla was both an excellent student and an athlete. Although he did not have a particularly smooth childhood, Wojtyla’s incredible motivation could be seen all his life. Even when his mother and brother both died before Karol turned 12, he remained strong and persistent. Through all his hardships as a young boy, as a student Karol was determined to learn and well disciplined. As a scholar, Wojtyla had a passion for theater and would also partake in literary discussion groups and poetry readings. By the time Karol was ordained the 264th pope of the Vatican, he had learned to speak 9 languages fluently while he began studying Spanish.
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good job
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Excellent!
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u wrote all that down just to see what people would say well i say it is kinda good
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you're on a roll!
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A lot of info, pretty good.
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The opening sentence needs work
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Keep it going. You are doing great so far.
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Sound really good. I used to proof read essays at the local college for students and you've got a good start. Now for a fantastic finish.
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Sounds like it is great.
“The world esteems and respects the courage of ideas and the force of virtue†(Palmer 62). Much like his quote, Pope John Paul II was righteous and well revered, evident in the multitudes of crowds who flocked to see him each year. Pope John Paul II has led an extraordinary life which can be seen in his childhood, education, adult life, and accomplishments. Born on May 18, 1920 in the small Polish town of Wadowice, Karol Jozef Wojtyla was destined to do great things from the early years of his life. Being encouraged by his parents to work hard, at school Wojtlyla was both an excellent student and an athlete. Although he did not have a particularly smooth childhood, Wojtyla’s incredible motivation could be seen all his life. Even when his mother and brother both died before Karol turned 12, he remained strong and persistent. Through all his hardships as a young boy, as a student Karol was determined to learn and well disciplined. As a scholar, Wojtyla had a passion for theater and would also partake in literary discussion groups and poetry readings. By the time Karol was ordained the 264th pope of the Vatican, he had learned to speak 9 languages fluently while he began studying Spanish.
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good job
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Excellent!
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u wrote all that down just to see what people would say well i say it is kinda good
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you're on a roll!
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A lot of info, pretty good.
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The opening sentence needs work
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Keep it going. You are doing great so far.
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Sound really good. I used to proof read essays at the local college for students and you've got a good start. Now for a fantastic finish.
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Sounds like it is great.
Sunday, August 7, 2011
How would you like to be someone famous for the day
How would you like to be someone famous for the day?
LIke me, the Pope. You would get to hang out at the Vatican and wear the cool robes and little cap thing. There's a bit of praying and chanting to be done, but if you get it out of the way in the morning you could take the pope-mobile out for some circle work in the afternoon.
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<<<< :)
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I can live without that.
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I wouldn't.. what's the use?
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How can you be the Pope when I'm the pope!
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i wanna be the dead pope.. i wanna experience heaven. fo sure he's up there right?
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By the look of your avatar,I'm not surprised you chose the Pope. I'd choose someone like P-diddy, if I was sure I could be me after 24 hours.
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I wouldn't mind being Brad Pit - I think I may spend the whole day in bed.
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nope not the Pope, but maybe someone else famous.
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maybe Elvis. I want to pretend I'm dead and be in the F B I.
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Oh, ...you crazy Europeans and "Pope Worshipping".....Australia is in Europe, right?
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i would like to be beyonce so i can live rich and have fun wit kelly and Michelle and produce my own song xx
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I did that last week. I fell for the email spam and signed up... now the Catholics have my name, SS#, and Top 5 favorite saints. Allah knows what they're going to do with that info.
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OOOOH, can i be Little Debbie?
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Don't want to be one, but would like avatar to pay tribute to one. Love, Roscoe
LIke me, the Pope. You would get to hang out at the Vatican and wear the cool robes and little cap thing. There's a bit of praying and chanting to be done, but if you get it out of the way in the morning you could take the pope-mobile out for some circle work in the afternoon.
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<<<< :)
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I can live without that.
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I wouldn't.. what's the use?
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How can you be the Pope when I'm the pope!
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i wanna be the dead pope.. i wanna experience heaven. fo sure he's up there right?
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By the look of your avatar,I'm not surprised you chose the Pope. I'd choose someone like P-diddy, if I was sure I could be me after 24 hours.
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I wouldn't mind being Brad Pit - I think I may spend the whole day in bed.
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nope not the Pope, but maybe someone else famous.
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maybe Elvis. I want to pretend I'm dead and be in the F B I.
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Oh, ...you crazy Europeans and "Pope Worshipping".....Australia is in Europe, right?
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i would like to be beyonce so i can live rich and have fun wit kelly and Michelle and produce my own song xx
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I did that last week. I fell for the email spam and signed up... now the Catholics have my name, SS#, and Top 5 favorite saints. Allah knows what they're going to do with that info.
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OOOOH, can i be Little Debbie?
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Don't want to be one, but would like avatar to pay tribute to one. Love, Roscoe
Monday, August 1, 2011
The Catholic Church has its own justice system doesnt it
The Catholic Church has its own justice system doesnt it?
A Catholic priest charged with sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl in Minnesota is working in his home diocese in India and has no plans to return to the U.S. to face the courts, he and his bishop told The Associated Press on Monday. Once again the Vatican seem to think that those they have preaching for them are above normal human rights ?
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Ugh. Makes me want to lick an electrical outlet. Religion and the harm it does is purely sickening. But its cool, I guess. "God will forgive them."
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Yes it does have it's own justice system, it's called do nothing and hide what you can.
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Link please. More information would be nice, of course. If, for example, said priest was having major surgery on the day in which this 14 year old claims to have been sexually assaulted, then the priest really would have no reason to return. Always remember that an accusation is not the same as guilt. People seem to have forgotten that recently. As for having its own justice system - not really. Each individual is subject to the laws of the land in which they are living.
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Injustice system more like!
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If the U.S. wants him, let the U.S. arrange with India an extradition. What do you want the Vatican to do -- kidnap the guy?
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Yes it does. What you do is take the witch and if they refuse to admit their witchery you tie them to the stake and pile wood up around them and....... oh wait. i just read the rest of your question. What do you mean 'above human rights'. When has the church ever infringed anyones rights?
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Well... http://www.startribune.com/world/89900257.html It's quite common for foreigners to refuse to return to a country where they expect to face criminal charges - whether innocent or guilty. However, why doesn't the court demand his extradition? If such were the case, I wonder what his bishop's reaction would be? As it is, all his bishop is doing is abiding by the law. I'm not saying that's the most moral choice - but there seems to be no coverup here. It seems more along the lines of a simple case of "innocent until proven guilty." If you go to page 2, you'll see that the priest (naturally) denies the charges. So - isn't this simply a case of awaiting a legally-binding summons - that is, an extradition? The fact that the charges were not made until after he had returned to India also speak (very slightly) in his favor. It doesn't seem as if he "escaped" to India to avoid prosecution - merely that he chose to remain there to avoid prosecution. Now - innocent or guilty, wouldn't you do as he has done? If I (innocent) were charged with *that kind* of crime and was in a situation where I did not have to face such charges, I would probably choose to remain in that situation - wouldn't you? Jim
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The Doctrine of Celibacy means that the priest is a better Human being than anyone else, and therefore has the Divine Right to perform *Hocus Pocus* (sic) and turn The Communion Wafer and Wine into the ACTUAL Body and Blood of The Lord Jesus Christ (sic)! . I am not making this up- that is what they believe! There is NO WAY that a Roman Catholic can believe that a Protestant Church Communion has equal standing with theirs' -and be permitted by law to drive later the same day. . If it were accepted that "anybody" can dispense Communion, it seems they believe, their Big-for-nothing Church would collapse! A few controlled "scandals" to sway public opinion (WHAT happened? REALLY?) and it gets announced they're dropping celibacy? Is that the Plan? The other SuperHuman Power only Celibate Roman Catholic priests have is the Power to Forgive Sins. . Why should this not apply to the CLERGY, as well as to the LAYMEN AND WOMEN? If we say it doesn't, then the entire concept must be a sham!
A Catholic priest charged with sexually assaulting a 14-year-old girl in Minnesota is working in his home diocese in India and has no plans to return to the U.S. to face the courts, he and his bishop told The Associated Press on Monday. Once again the Vatican seem to think that those they have preaching for them are above normal human rights ?
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Ugh. Makes me want to lick an electrical outlet. Religion and the harm it does is purely sickening. But its cool, I guess. "God will forgive them."
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Yes it does have it's own justice system, it's called do nothing and hide what you can.
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Link please. More information would be nice, of course. If, for example, said priest was having major surgery on the day in which this 14 year old claims to have been sexually assaulted, then the priest really would have no reason to return. Always remember that an accusation is not the same as guilt. People seem to have forgotten that recently. As for having its own justice system - not really. Each individual is subject to the laws of the land in which they are living.
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Injustice system more like!
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If the U.S. wants him, let the U.S. arrange with India an extradition. What do you want the Vatican to do -- kidnap the guy?
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Yes it does. What you do is take the witch and if they refuse to admit their witchery you tie them to the stake and pile wood up around them and....... oh wait. i just read the rest of your question. What do you mean 'above human rights'. When has the church ever infringed anyones rights?
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Well... http://www.startribune.com/world/89900257.html It's quite common for foreigners to refuse to return to a country where they expect to face criminal charges - whether innocent or guilty. However, why doesn't the court demand his extradition? If such were the case, I wonder what his bishop's reaction would be? As it is, all his bishop is doing is abiding by the law. I'm not saying that's the most moral choice - but there seems to be no coverup here. It seems more along the lines of a simple case of "innocent until proven guilty." If you go to page 2, you'll see that the priest (naturally) denies the charges. So - isn't this simply a case of awaiting a legally-binding summons - that is, an extradition? The fact that the charges were not made until after he had returned to India also speak (very slightly) in his favor. It doesn't seem as if he "escaped" to India to avoid prosecution - merely that he chose to remain there to avoid prosecution. Now - innocent or guilty, wouldn't you do as he has done? If I (innocent) were charged with *that kind* of crime and was in a situation where I did not have to face such charges, I would probably choose to remain in that situation - wouldn't you? Jim
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The Doctrine of Celibacy means that the priest is a better Human being than anyone else, and therefore has the Divine Right to perform *Hocus Pocus* (sic) and turn The Communion Wafer and Wine into the ACTUAL Body and Blood of The Lord Jesus Christ (sic)! . I am not making this up- that is what they believe! There is NO WAY that a Roman Catholic can believe that a Protestant Church Communion has equal standing with theirs' -and be permitted by law to drive later the same day. . If it were accepted that "anybody" can dispense Communion, it seems they believe, their Big-for-nothing Church would collapse! A few controlled "scandals" to sway public opinion (WHAT happened? REALLY?) and it gets announced they're dropping celibacy? Is that the Plan? The other SuperHuman Power only Celibate Roman Catholic priests have is the Power to Forgive Sins. . Why should this not apply to the CLERGY, as well as to the LAYMEN AND WOMEN? If we say it doesn't, then the entire concept must be a sham!
Thursday, July 21, 2011
Was Jesus an albino Illuminati? The "enlightened ones".
Was Jesus an albino Illuminati? The "enlightened ones".?
Revelation 1:14 "His head and hairs were white like wool, as white as snow. His eyes were a flame of fire". Most albinos have White skin and hair and red eyes. 15: and his feet unto fine brass as if they burned in a furnace. (Metal forging of Roman military boots) and his voice as the sound of many waters (Shouting)and he had in his right hand seven stars (a Jewish candle stick holder)and out of the mouth of his scabbard came a sharp two edged sword. (military weapon with sheath)and his countenance (face) was as bright as the sun.(white). The albino Illuminati are albino's working from inside the Vatican. They believe they are direct descendants of Jesus therefore the righteous rulers of the world. Albinism is 100% hereditary when both the mother and father are albino. Albinism can be traced through the patriarchs all the way back to Noah (the book of Enoch) and to God. The immortal Illuminati seek to aveng the assassination of their god Julius Caesar and his deified son Jesus the myth that deified Augustus. The exapostle John was in prison because he spoke the truth about Augustus. I forgot to mention thhat in anciet time albinos were believed to be angels because they were like unto gods. Genesis 6 says that the sons of god noticed the daughters of man were fair (skinned) that is why they lied them and had intercourse with them. They giants were born from that union. You are one of the Nephilium. A species that was not authorized by God. Therefore illigitimate.
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That is God that it speaks of...not Jesus
Revelation 1:14 "His head and hairs were white like wool, as white as snow. His eyes were a flame of fire". Most albinos have White skin and hair and red eyes. 15: and his feet unto fine brass as if they burned in a furnace. (Metal forging of Roman military boots) and his voice as the sound of many waters (Shouting)and he had in his right hand seven stars (a Jewish candle stick holder)and out of the mouth of his scabbard came a sharp two edged sword. (military weapon with sheath)and his countenance (face) was as bright as the sun.(white). The albino Illuminati are albino's working from inside the Vatican. They believe they are direct descendants of Jesus therefore the righteous rulers of the world. Albinism is 100% hereditary when both the mother and father are albino. Albinism can be traced through the patriarchs all the way back to Noah (the book of Enoch) and to God. The immortal Illuminati seek to aveng the assassination of their god Julius Caesar and his deified son Jesus the myth that deified Augustus. The exapostle John was in prison because he spoke the truth about Augustus. I forgot to mention thhat in anciet time albinos were believed to be angels because they were like unto gods. Genesis 6 says that the sons of god noticed the daughters of man were fair (skinned) that is why they lied them and had intercourse with them. They giants were born from that union. You are one of the Nephilium. A species that was not authorized by God. Therefore illigitimate.
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Thursday, July 14, 2011
Will this help Obama
Will this help Obama?
The international banking firm of Soros, Tzuris,and Soros has joined with Goldman, Ponzi, and Sachs in announcing plans to finance a 150 trillion dollar loan to the USA made possible through complex arrangement involving OPEC, the Bulgarian Central Bank,Cosa Nostra, The Columbian Drug cartel ( not the Columbian one Obama worked for), Albania, the Vatican Zionist minion, and the Little Sisters of the Poor. Emmanuel intends to distribute the funds immediately to all Obama supporters. The party will of course receive its share first. The democrats are so foolish they cannot tell a joke when they read one. I understand all of you need a laugh.
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Link please, regardless of source.
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You wasted all that time to write what is essentially drivel. You okay?
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Stick to writing children's books.
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I hear Hillary is channeling the tooth fairy.
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You woke up and wrote your dream on Yahoo! Answers. Oops!
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No
The international banking firm of Soros, Tzuris,and Soros has joined with Goldman, Ponzi, and Sachs in announcing plans to finance a 150 trillion dollar loan to the USA made possible through complex arrangement involving OPEC, the Bulgarian Central Bank,Cosa Nostra, The Columbian Drug cartel ( not the Columbian one Obama worked for), Albania, the Vatican Zionist minion, and the Little Sisters of the Poor. Emmanuel intends to distribute the funds immediately to all Obama supporters. The party will of course receive its share first. The democrats are so foolish they cannot tell a joke when they read one. I understand all of you need a laugh.
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Link please, regardless of source.
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You wasted all that time to write what is essentially drivel. You okay?
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Stick to writing children's books.
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I hear Hillary is channeling the tooth fairy.
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You woke up and wrote your dream on Yahoo! Answers. Oops!
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No
Thursday, July 7, 2011
Is this article on the pope ignorant or accurate
Is this article on the pope ignorant or accurate?
Despite his ripe old age of 81, Pope Benedict XVI demonstrated on Monday that he is still flexible enough to reach his foot all the way up to his mouth by saying that the world's financial systems are "built on sand." The Pope said "We are now seeing, in the collapse of major banks, that money vanishes, it is nothing. All these things that appear to be real are in fact secondary. Only God's words are a solid reality." It is surprising that the pope takes this stance, because the Roman Catholic Church seems to think that money is definitely something. Across the world, it is doubtful there are many organizations, governments or otherwise, to rival the church in land ownership and assets. The church also invests heavily across the world, in banks and corporations. If the pope believes money is nothing, if he believes that "Only God's words are a solid reality," then perhaps he should realize that just as money is secondary, so too is his goofy wardrobe, so too is the plane that he travels the world in and so too are the beautiful buildings of the Vatican City. It is a rare duality that one who lives in such luxury would expound on the lack of meaning of the money that enables him to do so. Pope Benedict XVI is able to talk about money as if it were nothing because he works for an organization that has not been starved for cash in hundreds of years. His income is not based on how hard or how much he labors; it is based on people's belief that their contribution will please a divine being who has the power to send them to heaven or hell. When money is earned through a man's own sweat or exertion, it becomes something. Ayn Rand captured this reality more concisely than this writer can when she said "It stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting sacrificial offerings. Where there's service, there's someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice, speaks of slaves and masters. And intends to be the master." Pope Benedict XVI and the Roman Catholic Church should not be preaching to the world that its pursuit of material wealth is an empty exercise. Instead, they should be reassuring the Catholics of the world that just as they supported the church financially when they were able to do so, now the church will make an effort to help them out financially during the tough times that lay ahead for the religious and the secular alike. Perhaps some room could be found in the budget between the expenditures for vestments and giant gold crosses.
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I dunno, not very well written and kind of ignorant if you ask me.
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Spot on! The bible talks about Babylon the Great (all false religion) as being adorned with jewels and all manner of finery. It wont be long before God puts it into the wild beasts (worldly governments) heart to turn on her and devastate her (see Revelations). Wonder what might trigger that? However, its not just this faith but all false religions that will receive this fate. The bibles advice is to get our of her before it is too late.
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Seems pretty much on the money. Why do you people need such opulent clothes? Try to picture Jesus in a papal gown and with a tiara. Looks kind of ridiculous. The contrast between the naked and bleeding Jesus, humiliated and nailed to a cross, wearing a wreath of thorns for a crown (and how did they make that thing anyway, without hurting themselves, I wonder?) and the pope, dressed in regal attire, wielding grand authority and venerated by millions, is stark.
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St Augustine answered you almost 2000 years ago !!! Hope you can handle this In cupiditas, the created order or something in the created order becomes the criterion of evaluation; it becomes the source of value .Cupiditas is wrong enjoyment and wrong use; it is illicit enjoyment of some temporal things, abuse or misuse of others in service of those which would be enjoyed. In sum, the caritas/cupiditas distinction, ... is a device by which Augustine can retain his powerful stance against idolatry while at the same time arguing that God's creation is the proper object of love. In caritas, love of use is the love for, and even transitory delight in, created things; it is the love of relative ends, which are good, but not the final good. IF you love money more than God, that's wrong. If you use it as it should be used (and the Gospel says you should) then it is good. Hint: It's not the money's fault :)
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How do you stop people from donating to their church? The Vatican, Catholic parishes, religious orders and other Catholic groups are the largest charitable organization in the world period. No other institution provides more food, medical care and education. For example, Catholic charities provides more than two million meals per year in Chicago alone. BTW I was educated by Jesuits free of charge.
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The Pope may be an expert on Catholicism. However, I will not be choosing him as my financial planner. Simply stated, money is very real. However, it is equally true that money is fragile. The wealth we have, due to economic risks, can be rendered very impermanent. And in this day and age when money is a collection of data on a computer more than something tangible one holds in his hands, I can understand why one would question its reality. The above being said, the fact that one's buying power is subject to risks of the marketplace does not render it less real. Indeed, life itself is fragile, but few would doubt either its reality or its importance. I can only explain the Pope's remarks as ignorant, the often-seen product of a person who does not understand what he is discussing. The Pope has exceeded his area of expertise when he tries to explain the global financial crisis. Money is real, and if his religion dictates a regard for an invisible deity that exceeds one's regard for the currency used to buy the things one needs to survive, so be it. However, that's a ship I do not intend to board. I think your analysis is both insightful and accurate. Thank you for the question and your position on the Pope's comments.
Despite his ripe old age of 81, Pope Benedict XVI demonstrated on Monday that he is still flexible enough to reach his foot all the way up to his mouth by saying that the world's financial systems are "built on sand." The Pope said "We are now seeing, in the collapse of major banks, that money vanishes, it is nothing. All these things that appear to be real are in fact secondary. Only God's words are a solid reality." It is surprising that the pope takes this stance, because the Roman Catholic Church seems to think that money is definitely something. Across the world, it is doubtful there are many organizations, governments or otherwise, to rival the church in land ownership and assets. The church also invests heavily across the world, in banks and corporations. If the pope believes money is nothing, if he believes that "Only God's words are a solid reality," then perhaps he should realize that just as money is secondary, so too is his goofy wardrobe, so too is the plane that he travels the world in and so too are the beautiful buildings of the Vatican City. It is a rare duality that one who lives in such luxury would expound on the lack of meaning of the money that enables him to do so. Pope Benedict XVI is able to talk about money as if it were nothing because he works for an organization that has not been starved for cash in hundreds of years. His income is not based on how hard or how much he labors; it is based on people's belief that their contribution will please a divine being who has the power to send them to heaven or hell. When money is earned through a man's own sweat or exertion, it becomes something. Ayn Rand captured this reality more concisely than this writer can when she said "It stands to reason that where there's sacrifice, there's someone collecting sacrificial offerings. Where there's service, there's someone being served. The man who speaks to you of sacrifice, speaks of slaves and masters. And intends to be the master." Pope Benedict XVI and the Roman Catholic Church should not be preaching to the world that its pursuit of material wealth is an empty exercise. Instead, they should be reassuring the Catholics of the world that just as they supported the church financially when they were able to do so, now the church will make an effort to help them out financially during the tough times that lay ahead for the religious and the secular alike. Perhaps some room could be found in the budget between the expenditures for vestments and giant gold crosses.
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I dunno, not very well written and kind of ignorant if you ask me.
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Spot on! The bible talks about Babylon the Great (all false religion) as being adorned with jewels and all manner of finery. It wont be long before God puts it into the wild beasts (worldly governments) heart to turn on her and devastate her (see Revelations). Wonder what might trigger that? However, its not just this faith but all false religions that will receive this fate. The bibles advice is to get our of her before it is too late.
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Seems pretty much on the money. Why do you people need such opulent clothes? Try to picture Jesus in a papal gown and with a tiara. Looks kind of ridiculous. The contrast between the naked and bleeding Jesus, humiliated and nailed to a cross, wearing a wreath of thorns for a crown (and how did they make that thing anyway, without hurting themselves, I wonder?) and the pope, dressed in regal attire, wielding grand authority and venerated by millions, is stark.
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St Augustine answered you almost 2000 years ago !!! Hope you can handle this In cupiditas, the created order or something in the created order becomes the criterion of evaluation; it becomes the source of value .Cupiditas is wrong enjoyment and wrong use; it is illicit enjoyment of some temporal things, abuse or misuse of others in service of those which would be enjoyed. In sum, the caritas/cupiditas distinction, ... is a device by which Augustine can retain his powerful stance against idolatry while at the same time arguing that God's creation is the proper object of love. In caritas, love of use is the love for, and even transitory delight in, created things; it is the love of relative ends, which are good, but not the final good. IF you love money more than God, that's wrong. If you use it as it should be used (and the Gospel says you should) then it is good. Hint: It's not the money's fault :)
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How do you stop people from donating to their church? The Vatican, Catholic parishes, religious orders and other Catholic groups are the largest charitable organization in the world period. No other institution provides more food, medical care and education. For example, Catholic charities provides more than two million meals per year in Chicago alone. BTW I was educated by Jesuits free of charge.
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The Pope may be an expert on Catholicism. However, I will not be choosing him as my financial planner. Simply stated, money is very real. However, it is equally true that money is fragile. The wealth we have, due to economic risks, can be rendered very impermanent. And in this day and age when money is a collection of data on a computer more than something tangible one holds in his hands, I can understand why one would question its reality. The above being said, the fact that one's buying power is subject to risks of the marketplace does not render it less real. Indeed, life itself is fragile, but few would doubt either its reality or its importance. I can only explain the Pope's remarks as ignorant, the often-seen product of a person who does not understand what he is discussing. The Pope has exceeded his area of expertise when he tries to explain the global financial crisis. Money is real, and if his religion dictates a regard for an invisible deity that exceeds one's regard for the currency used to buy the things one needs to survive, so be it. However, that's a ship I do not intend to board. I think your analysis is both insightful and accurate. Thank you for the question and your position on the Pope's comments.
Friday, July 1, 2011
Just heard from BBC News that the Vatican is having a Conference on Religious Affairs but ignorant of S'pore
Just heard from BBC News that the Vatican is having a Conference on Religious Affairs but ignorant of S'pore?
Why the world is so ignorant of the facts that Singapore is a World Model for Religious Toleration in practice for the past 40+ years since Independence in 1965. We have the worship of all religion in the world in S'pore and are treated equally well & good with due respect by the people & the Govt. We have annual religious Conference in the nation for all religion, for all races from East & West. Our Muslim are the most modern in thinking, if not in the world but our Mosque Structure & MUIS organisation are good enough for the Middle East Countries to take us as working example for them to follow by sending their students & scholars to Singapore. Our Ministerial Team to UAE surprised them in seeing the Indian, Malay, Eurasian & Chinese working together as an effective team and they saw with their own eyes to believe. Greatest Surprise to me is that nothing is being mentioned on Singapore in BBC World news on such a serious topic. Why, any discrimination issue ? Hi tman .......is it true man. Glad that U r clear of my meaning. Yes S'pore is tiny but willing to take on huge job for the sake of the world. Most countries of the world do not or don't know how to take the 1st Step. Think of the good to mankind and give them happiness.......a short life of 100yrs to live, that is the most so just do what you can to help. It is hard to find believer like you over here. No one take the bite.
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I have no doubt that Singapore is a shining example of tolerance, I have heard many kind words said of it, but as countries go though, it is quite small and this is probably the cause of its low profile more than anything else.
Why the world is so ignorant of the facts that Singapore is a World Model for Religious Toleration in practice for the past 40+ years since Independence in 1965. We have the worship of all religion in the world in S'pore and are treated equally well & good with due respect by the people & the Govt. We have annual religious Conference in the nation for all religion, for all races from East & West. Our Muslim are the most modern in thinking, if not in the world but our Mosque Structure & MUIS organisation are good enough for the Middle East Countries to take us as working example for them to follow by sending their students & scholars to Singapore. Our Ministerial Team to UAE surprised them in seeing the Indian, Malay, Eurasian & Chinese working together as an effective team and they saw with their own eyes to believe. Greatest Surprise to me is that nothing is being mentioned on Singapore in BBC World news on such a serious topic. Why, any discrimination issue ? Hi tman .......is it true man. Glad that U r clear of my meaning. Yes S'pore is tiny but willing to take on huge job for the sake of the world. Most countries of the world do not or don't know how to take the 1st Step. Think of the good to mankind and give them happiness.......a short life of 100yrs to live, that is the most so just do what you can to help. It is hard to find believer like you over here. No one take the bite.
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I have no doubt that Singapore is a shining example of tolerance, I have heard many kind words said of it, but as countries go though, it is quite small and this is probably the cause of its low profile more than anything else.
Tuesday, June 21, 2011
Did the Vatican condemn GMO crops and animals, or simply caution on their use
Did the Vatican condemn GMO crops and animals, or simply caution on their use?
I'm looking for help researching this. A buddy of mine is a doctoral candidate in genetics and was pretty ticked when a minister told him it was a sin to do genetic experiments. Now, he works with transgenetic brewer's yeast as a means of understanding how different genes function to synthesize proteins, so we're not talking about human research, or cloning, but rather adapting the present mechanisms. I'm looking for something to source the campus minister's position. Any help would be appreciated - right now I personally think it's just her personal fear of GMOs rather than anything the Church says, but I'm not sure. Tanks.
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Here is what the Vatican's director of Bioethics has to say on the matter: "I have stopped all those who demand condemnation of these ( genetically modified ) products," said Bishop Elio Sgreccia, Vatican director of Bioethics and vice-president of the Pontifical Academy of Life (PAL). He emphasized that biotechnological research could resolve global problems such as hunger since it enables agricultural productivity even in arid lands. "We (PAL members) are increasingly encouraged that the advantages of genetic engineering of plants and animals are greater than the risks," explained Bishop Sgreccia. "The risks should be carefully followed through openness, analysis and control, but without a sense of alarm."
I'm looking for help researching this. A buddy of mine is a doctoral candidate in genetics and was pretty ticked when a minister told him it was a sin to do genetic experiments. Now, he works with transgenetic brewer's yeast as a means of understanding how different genes function to synthesize proteins, so we're not talking about human research, or cloning, but rather adapting the present mechanisms. I'm looking for something to source the campus minister's position. Any help would be appreciated - right now I personally think it's just her personal fear of GMOs rather than anything the Church says, but I'm not sure. Tanks.
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Here is what the Vatican's director of Bioethics has to say on the matter: "I have stopped all those who demand condemnation of these ( genetically modified ) products," said Bishop Elio Sgreccia, Vatican director of Bioethics and vice-president of the Pontifical Academy of Life (PAL). He emphasized that biotechnological research could resolve global problems such as hunger since it enables agricultural productivity even in arid lands. "We (PAL members) are increasingly encouraged that the advantages of genetic engineering of plants and animals are greater than the risks," explained Bishop Sgreccia. "The risks should be carefully followed through openness, analysis and control, but without a sense of alarm."
Tuesday, June 14, 2011
How come catholics exert so much influence on USA
How come catholics exert so much influence on USA?
Eventhough they are a mere 24% of the USsociety .I see it in many forms, from catholic schools,and entertainment media , white house catholics advocating bush to go to war with iraq. secularism as a founding principle in a country with 99% protestant population when it was founded in late 18th century(something unimaginable when you look at other protestant nations of 18th century like england,germany,holland,norway,sweeden,denmark,finland etc.)...That to advocated by a mysterious group called 'free masons' who many believe(d) to be working secretly under jesuits(jesuits are vatican secret agents whose aim is to destroy every religion that opposes catholicism...Since jesuits were known by many to work for henious acts of vatican they needed a near cover organisation~so they founded 'freemasons.' Such through 'covert' operations are rare in history and it should be praised for its efficacy~ as of now protestants are just 50% of US population,and so called evangelicals are cooing up with caths.Also note that jesuit agenda of 'feminism' has been succesful in dividing and destroying protestant churches,while another jesuit lie 'communism' has been succesful in destroyin the power of eastern orthodoxy and other eastern traditional religion.Meanwhile the old vatican creation of islam is now threatening very existense of its 'creator' just like communism,which i believe will act as gods agent in destroying this evil/satanic cult called catholicism,which protestents shirked causing their downfall...And to 'irritated catholics' YOUR DOWNFALL HAS STARTED. Ha ha take the bite sissies!
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Because they tend to be organized and have strong, tightly-knit communities.
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lol catholics make me lulz
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I know! We've had so many Catholic presidents, it's unbearable. Oh wait...
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its a twisted cult that claims some semblance of connection with Christianity. sad that people follow so blindly of a cult that is SO into using their people.
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At least most Catholics (we'll ignore jackoffs like Bill O'reilly) are fairly quiet. The protestant fundamentalist are the scumbags that start things like the Moral Majority. They can all jump in a lake for all I care.
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Oh, goody. Another "Catholicism is an evil cult" rant. Feel better? I'll bet you've never stepped foot in a Catholic church, have you?
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CONSPIRACY THEORISTS UNITE!
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Because they think their way is better than everyone elses way. They do whatever it takes to attempt to overthrow anything they feel is not right.
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Really??????
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"Meanwhile the old vatican creation of islam " source please (chick tracts don't count) Here's another tip regarding mis-information "evil/satanic cult[s]" worship Satan and perform evil....Catholics worship the Triune God alone and try their best to follow Christ's example of self sacrifice and performing good moral acts for their fellow man. What you attempt to condemn as Catholicism, just plain isn't what Catholicism is or teaches period. In fact I'm glad we agree that picture you portray of Catholicism is an error, It means you are a long way from rejecting what Catholicism in fact is.
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Fun fact: The puritans got kicked out of Europe because they were too uptight. Then they sowed the seeds of the USA.
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Because people love to have their ears tickled by false doctrines. There is nothing in the world that has authority over the scriptures. For the scriptures are inspired by God and they are the truth that we are to live by. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work. The scriptures are our truth and only by them are we to live, not by the traditions of men. But only by the truth that is revealed to us by the Holy Spirit that is in the scriptures, the word of God. 2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.
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Misinformation and ignorance - table for one.
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Why do people rob banks? Because thats where the money is!
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I don't agree with anything you say. You have so much mistaken information, it's like a buffet of falsehoods.
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Don't cancel your lithium prescription.
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well im better then a stubborn fundie
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Another desperate anti-Catholic rant by a fundie cultist.
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A real shame is that this post could have discussed how the Catholic Church formerly attempted to promote conversion, ethnic cleansing, and demographic expansion to make America a Catholic Confessional state and undermine the founding liberties of our documents, but instead changed gears to being behind and pushing agendas which are counter to public opinion (such as the Catholic Church's campaign to end the death penalty, which most Americans support and which cuts down on crime). Also there could have been discussion of the consistent attempts made by Catholic religious figures to ingrain Catholic social teaching (which in many points is counter to the libertarian ethos of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution) into contemporary American society. But sadly you just had to dredge up ridiculous conspiracy theories. If the "Jesuits" (founded ca. 1600s) invented Islam (founded ca. 622), they must have realized the nature of the Frankenstein by the time of Saladin, dontcha think?
Eventhough they are a mere 24% of the USsociety .I see it in many forms, from catholic schools,and entertainment media , white house catholics advocating bush to go to war with iraq. secularism as a founding principle in a country with 99% protestant population when it was founded in late 18th century(something unimaginable when you look at other protestant nations of 18th century like england,germany,holland,norway,sweeden,denmark,finland etc.)...That to advocated by a mysterious group called 'free masons' who many believe(d) to be working secretly under jesuits(jesuits are vatican secret agents whose aim is to destroy every religion that opposes catholicism...Since jesuits were known by many to work for henious acts of vatican they needed a near cover organisation~so they founded 'freemasons.' Such through 'covert' operations are rare in history and it should be praised for its efficacy~ as of now protestants are just 50% of US population,and so called evangelicals are cooing up with caths.Also note that jesuit agenda of 'feminism' has been succesful in dividing and destroying protestant churches,while another jesuit lie 'communism' has been succesful in destroyin the power of eastern orthodoxy and other eastern traditional religion.Meanwhile the old vatican creation of islam is now threatening very existense of its 'creator' just like communism,which i believe will act as gods agent in destroying this evil/satanic cult called catholicism,which protestents shirked causing their downfall...And to 'irritated catholics' YOUR DOWNFALL HAS STARTED. Ha ha take the bite sissies!
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Because they tend to be organized and have strong, tightly-knit communities.
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lol catholics make me lulz
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I know! We've had so many Catholic presidents, it's unbearable. Oh wait...
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its a twisted cult that claims some semblance of connection with Christianity. sad that people follow so blindly of a cult that is SO into using their people.
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At least most Catholics (we'll ignore jackoffs like Bill O'reilly) are fairly quiet. The protestant fundamentalist are the scumbags that start things like the Moral Majority. They can all jump in a lake for all I care.
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Oh, goody. Another "Catholicism is an evil cult" rant. Feel better? I'll bet you've never stepped foot in a Catholic church, have you?
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CONSPIRACY THEORISTS UNITE!
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Because they think their way is better than everyone elses way. They do whatever it takes to attempt to overthrow anything they feel is not right.
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Really??????
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"Meanwhile the old vatican creation of islam " source please (chick tracts don't count) Here's another tip regarding mis-information "evil/satanic cult[s]" worship Satan and perform evil....Catholics worship the Triune God alone and try their best to follow Christ's example of self sacrifice and performing good moral acts for their fellow man. What you attempt to condemn as Catholicism, just plain isn't what Catholicism is or teaches period. In fact I'm glad we agree that picture you portray of Catholicism is an error, It means you are a long way from rejecting what Catholicism in fact is.
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Fun fact: The puritans got kicked out of Europe because they were too uptight. Then they sowed the seeds of the USA.
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Because people love to have their ears tickled by false doctrines. There is nothing in the world that has authority over the scriptures. For the scriptures are inspired by God and they are the truth that we are to live by. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work. The scriptures are our truth and only by them are we to live, not by the traditions of men. But only by the truth that is revealed to us by the Holy Spirit that is in the scriptures, the word of God. 2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.
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Misinformation and ignorance - table for one.
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Why do people rob banks? Because thats where the money is!
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I don't agree with anything you say. You have so much mistaken information, it's like a buffet of falsehoods.
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Don't cancel your lithium prescription.
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well im better then a stubborn fundie
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Another desperate anti-Catholic rant by a fundie cultist.
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A real shame is that this post could have discussed how the Catholic Church formerly attempted to promote conversion, ethnic cleansing, and demographic expansion to make America a Catholic Confessional state and undermine the founding liberties of our documents, but instead changed gears to being behind and pushing agendas which are counter to public opinion (such as the Catholic Church's campaign to end the death penalty, which most Americans support and which cuts down on crime). Also there could have been discussion of the consistent attempts made by Catholic religious figures to ingrain Catholic social teaching (which in many points is counter to the libertarian ethos of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution) into contemporary American society. But sadly you just had to dredge up ridiculous conspiracy theories. If the "Jesuits" (founded ca. 1600s) invented Islam (founded ca. 622), they must have realized the nature of the Frankenstein by the time of Saladin, dontcha think?
Tuesday, June 7, 2011
How come catholics exert so much influence on USA
How come catholics exert so much influence on USA?
Eventhough they are a mere 24% of the USsociety .I see it in many forms, from catholic schools,and entertainment media , white house catholics advocating bush to go to war with iraq. secularism as a founding principle in a country with 99% protestant population when it was founded in late 18th century(something unimaginable when you look at other protestant nations of 18th century like england,germany,holland,norway,sweeden,denmark,finland etc.)...That to advocated by a mysterious group called 'free masons' who many believe(d) to be working secretly under jesuits(jesuits are vatican secret agents whose aim is to destroy every religion that opposes catholicism...Since jesuits were known by many to work for henious acts of vatican they needed a near cover organisation~so they founded 'freemasons.' Such through 'covert' operations are rare in history and it should be praised for its efficacy~ as of now protestants are just 50% of US population,and so called evangelicals are cooing up with caths.Also note that jesuit agenda of 'feminism' has been succesful in dividing and destroying protestant churches,while another jesuit lie 'communism' has been succesful in destroyin the power of eastern orthodoxy and other eastern traditional religion.Meanwhile the old vatican creation of islam is now threatening very existense of its 'creator' just like communism,which i believe will act as gods agent in destroying this evil/satanic cult called catholicism,which protestents shirked causing their downfall...And to 'irritated catholics' YOUR DOWNFALL HAS STARTED. Ha ha take the bite sissies!
Religion & Spirituality - 19 Answers
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Because they tend to be organized and have strong, tightly-knit communities.
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lol catholics make me lulz
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I know! We've had so many Catholic presidents, it's unbearable. Oh wait...
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its a twisted cult that claims some semblance of connection with Christianity. sad that people follow so blindly of a cult that is SO into using their people.
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At least most Catholics (we'll ignore jackoffs like Bill O'reilly) are fairly quiet. The protestant fundamentalist are the scumbags that start things like the Moral Majority. They can all jump in a lake for all I care.
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Oh, goody. Another "Catholicism is an evil cult" rant. Feel better? I'll bet you've never stepped foot in a Catholic church, have you?
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CONSPIRACY THEORISTS UNITE!
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Because they think their way is better than everyone elses way. They do whatever it takes to attempt to overthrow anything they feel is not right.
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Really??????
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"Meanwhile the old vatican creation of islam " source please (chick tracts don't count) Here's another tip regarding mis-information "evil/satanic cult[s]" worship Satan and perform evil....Catholics worship the Triune God alone and try their best to follow Christ's example of self sacrifice and performing good moral acts for their fellow man. What you attempt to condemn as Catholicism, just plain isn't what Catholicism is or teaches period. In fact I'm glad we agree that picture you portray of Catholicism is an error, It means you are a long way from rejecting what Catholicism in fact is.
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Fun fact: The puritans got kicked out of Europe because they were too uptight. Then they sowed the seeds of the USA.
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Because people love to have their ears tickled by false doctrines. There is nothing in the world that has authority over the scriptures. For the scriptures are inspired by God and they are the truth that we are to live by. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work. The scriptures are our truth and only by them are we to live, not by the traditions of men. But only by the truth that is revealed to us by the Holy Spirit that is in the scriptures, the word of God. 2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.
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Misinformation and ignorance - table for one.
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Why do people rob banks? Because thats where the money is!
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I don't agree with anything you say. You have so much mistaken information, it's like a buffet of falsehoods.
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Don't cancel your lithium prescription.
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well im better then a stubborn fundie
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Another desperate anti-Catholic rant by a fundie cultist.
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A real shame is that this post could have discussed how the Catholic Church formerly attempted to promote conversion, ethnic cleansing, and demographic expansion to make America a Catholic Confessional state and undermine the founding liberties of our documents, but instead changed gears to being behind and pushing agendas which are counter to public opinion (such as the Catholic Church's campaign to end the death penalty, which most Americans support and which cuts down on crime). Also there could have been discussion of the consistent attempts made by Catholic religious figures to ingrain Catholic social teaching (which in many points is counter to the libertarian ethos of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution) into contemporary American society. But sadly you just had to dredge up ridiculous conspiracy theories. If the "Jesuits" (founded ca. 1600s) invented Islam (founded ca. 622), they must have realized the nature of the Frankenstein by the time of Saladin, dontcha think?
Eventhough they are a mere 24% of the USsociety .I see it in many forms, from catholic schools,and entertainment media , white house catholics advocating bush to go to war with iraq. secularism as a founding principle in a country with 99% protestant population when it was founded in late 18th century(something unimaginable when you look at other protestant nations of 18th century like england,germany,holland,norway,sweeden,denmark,finland etc.)...That to advocated by a mysterious group called 'free masons' who many believe(d) to be working secretly under jesuits(jesuits are vatican secret agents whose aim is to destroy every religion that opposes catholicism...Since jesuits were known by many to work for henious acts of vatican they needed a near cover organisation~so they founded 'freemasons.' Such through 'covert' operations are rare in history and it should be praised for its efficacy~ as of now protestants are just 50% of US population,and so called evangelicals are cooing up with caths.Also note that jesuit agenda of 'feminism' has been succesful in dividing and destroying protestant churches,while another jesuit lie 'communism' has been succesful in destroyin the power of eastern orthodoxy and other eastern traditional religion.Meanwhile the old vatican creation of islam is now threatening very existense of its 'creator' just like communism,which i believe will act as gods agent in destroying this evil/satanic cult called catholicism,which protestents shirked causing their downfall...And to 'irritated catholics' YOUR DOWNFALL HAS STARTED. Ha ha take the bite sissies!
Religion & Spirituality - 19 Answers
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Because they tend to be organized and have strong, tightly-knit communities.
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lol catholics make me lulz
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I know! We've had so many Catholic presidents, it's unbearable. Oh wait...
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its a twisted cult that claims some semblance of connection with Christianity. sad that people follow so blindly of a cult that is SO into using their people.
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At least most Catholics (we'll ignore jackoffs like Bill O'reilly) are fairly quiet. The protestant fundamentalist are the scumbags that start things like the Moral Majority. They can all jump in a lake for all I care.
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Oh, goody. Another "Catholicism is an evil cult" rant. Feel better? I'll bet you've never stepped foot in a Catholic church, have you?
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CONSPIRACY THEORISTS UNITE!
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Because they think their way is better than everyone elses way. They do whatever it takes to attempt to overthrow anything they feel is not right.
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Really??????
10 :
"Meanwhile the old vatican creation of islam " source please (chick tracts don't count) Here's another tip regarding mis-information "evil/satanic cult[s]" worship Satan and perform evil....Catholics worship the Triune God alone and try their best to follow Christ's example of self sacrifice and performing good moral acts for their fellow man. What you attempt to condemn as Catholicism, just plain isn't what Catholicism is or teaches period. In fact I'm glad we agree that picture you portray of Catholicism is an error, It means you are a long way from rejecting what Catholicism in fact is.
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Fun fact: The puritans got kicked out of Europe because they were too uptight. Then they sowed the seeds of the USA.
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Because people love to have their ears tickled by false doctrines. There is nothing in the world that has authority over the scriptures. For the scriptures are inspired by God and they are the truth that we are to live by. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17that the man of God may be competent, equipped for every good work. The scriptures are our truth and only by them are we to live, not by the traditions of men. But only by the truth that is revealed to us by the Holy Spirit that is in the scriptures, the word of God. 2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.
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Misinformation and ignorance - table for one.
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Why do people rob banks? Because thats where the money is!
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I don't agree with anything you say. You have so much mistaken information, it's like a buffet of falsehoods.
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Don't cancel your lithium prescription.
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well im better then a stubborn fundie
18 :
Another desperate anti-Catholic rant by a fundie cultist.
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A real shame is that this post could have discussed how the Catholic Church formerly attempted to promote conversion, ethnic cleansing, and demographic expansion to make America a Catholic Confessional state and undermine the founding liberties of our documents, but instead changed gears to being behind and pushing agendas which are counter to public opinion (such as the Catholic Church's campaign to end the death penalty, which most Americans support and which cuts down on crime). Also there could have been discussion of the consistent attempts made by Catholic religious figures to ingrain Catholic social teaching (which in many points is counter to the libertarian ethos of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution) into contemporary American society. But sadly you just had to dredge up ridiculous conspiracy theories. If the "Jesuits" (founded ca. 1600s) invented Islam (founded ca. 622), they must have realized the nature of the Frankenstein by the time of Saladin, dontcha think?
Wednesday, June 1, 2011
Name for a secret society
Name for a secret society?
i'm writing a art history paper on Raphael. I need a name of a secret society, a name that goes along with the language of that time. The assignment is we discovered a piece of work by a artist in the time period we're studying so we're allowed to get creative. Most of his work has been in the Vatican. In my paper, I wrote that his work was found a recently discovered secret room in the vatican. The room was believed to be used for a secret society by the name of <insert name here> Any other ideas as to how a piece of work was recently discovered could be helpful as well. But it has to be Renaissance related cuz' thats the period Raphael painted in. Thank you so much. I just need a lil' inspiration.
Other - Visual Arts - 4 Answers
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Well, depends on what type you're aiming for. If you're looking for something mysterious, try "Stygians", or something along the like. Stygian is a synonym for "dark".
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The Waterproof Mammals
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Unknown_Men
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Sanctuarians
i'm writing a art history paper on Raphael. I need a name of a secret society, a name that goes along with the language of that time. The assignment is we discovered a piece of work by a artist in the time period we're studying so we're allowed to get creative. Most of his work has been in the Vatican. In my paper, I wrote that his work was found a recently discovered secret room in the vatican. The room was believed to be used for a secret society by the name of <insert name here> Any other ideas as to how a piece of work was recently discovered could be helpful as well. But it has to be Renaissance related cuz' thats the period Raphael painted in. Thank you so much. I just need a lil' inspiration.
Other - Visual Arts - 4 Answers
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Well, depends on what type you're aiming for. If you're looking for something mysterious, try "Stygians", or something along the like. Stygian is a synonym for "dark".
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The Waterproof Mammals
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine_Unknown_Men
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Sanctuarians
Saturday, May 21, 2011
How to get a publisher
How to get a publisher?
I am working on a the Da Vinci Code like story on the highly regimented Vaidantik sect of Hinduism with its Vatican like headquarter at BELUR near Calcutta in India. How can I get a publisher?? I also need to take a year or two off my job for research. So, a fat advance will be welcome.
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If this is your first novel... you have a way to go before you get published and it is unlikely you will get a huge advance. You need a literary agent who will only sign you once you've completed the novel. This literary agent will know what publishers to contact that would be most accepting of your manuscript. However, I think the market is flooded with 'Da Vinci Code' style manuscripts at the moment... maybe think of something new!
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There's little chance you'll get an advance before writing the book. It doesn't work that way if you're an unknown. And publishers rarely accept unagented queries and submissions. I'm afraid you're going to have to find other means of funding if you're going to take time off work to write this book (which sounds interesting, by the way.) Most published writers keep their regular jobs. Very few become as financially successful as Dan Brown. For tips on finding an agent, do a Yahoo Answers search on terms like "publish book", "publish novel", "how do I publish my book", etc. The question has been asked and answered many times.
I am working on a the Da Vinci Code like story on the highly regimented Vaidantik sect of Hinduism with its Vatican like headquarter at BELUR near Calcutta in India. How can I get a publisher?? I also need to take a year or two off my job for research. So, a fat advance will be welcome.
Books & Authors - 2 Answers
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If this is your first novel... you have a way to go before you get published and it is unlikely you will get a huge advance. You need a literary agent who will only sign you once you've completed the novel. This literary agent will know what publishers to contact that would be most accepting of your manuscript. However, I think the market is flooded with 'Da Vinci Code' style manuscripts at the moment... maybe think of something new!
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There's little chance you'll get an advance before writing the book. It doesn't work that way if you're an unknown. And publishers rarely accept unagented queries and submissions. I'm afraid you're going to have to find other means of funding if you're going to take time off work to write this book (which sounds interesting, by the way.) Most published writers keep their regular jobs. Very few become as financially successful as Dan Brown. For tips on finding an agent, do a Yahoo Answers search on terms like "publish book", "publish novel", "how do I publish my book", etc. The question has been asked and answered many times.
Saturday, May 14, 2011
Did Mother Teresa predict the end of the world in 2012
Did Mother Teresa predict the end of the world in 2012?
I just got the weirdest email. Has anyone heard about this? I'm just looking for a little clarification. Apparently there was shady ambiguous prophecy, located deep within the Vatican archives, that indicated that a 'dark force' would suck in all of existence, and subsequently spew out a collective consciousness that would turn all remaining life forms into hippies. She went around trying to proclaim this truth, but the Vatican immediately suppressed her work and discredited her as an 'atheist'.. whatever that is.
Religion & Spirituality - 7 Answers
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And if they were hippies... Why they would have no need for the Church!
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no absolutely not
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Hello, Mother Teresa concerned herself with helping the poor, sick and afflicted and running hospitals which took up a great deal of her time. Like most other Catholics I know, she most likely did not worry or fret about the end times realizing that if she were to be hit by a bus shot in a riot or beaten to death by a robber or suffer a fatal heart attack, it was the end of the world for her anyway. I'd say this is another urban legend in waiting. Cheers, Michael Kelly
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It sounds more like a wierd rumour than a credible claim. The bit that makes me really suspicious is the allegation that the Vatican discredited her by declaring her an atheist. In fact, her supposed 'atheism' did not come to public knowledge until after her death and was not really atheism at all. It was an exceptionally prolonged 'dark night of the soul', during which she suffered a long period of spiritual dryness and an apparent absence of God, but did not deny her faith. The concept of the dark night of the soul is a long established aspect of Catholic spirituality, and is especially associated with the sixteenth century mystic St John of the Cross. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Night_of_the_Soul
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You're either making it all up or you're very gullible.
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Mother Teresa couldn't have predicted the end of the world with any accuracy because God hasn't given that information out until the last year or two. The world can not end in 2012 because the Bible declares it will end in 2011. Even if Mother Teresa predicted 2012 she didn't get it from the Bible.. The end of the world is described in the Bible in great detail. I have seen all the proof from the Bible that God declares the world will end in 2011 beginning on 5/21/2011. This is an amazing study if you are interested. Seek God If you read 1COR 2:9-16 and substitue "True Gospel" for the word "things" you will see how saved man "can know" and how the phrase "No man knoweth" is describing the unsaved condition of man. Moreover the studies linked below will show you the detailed calendar that is in the Bible and how you can see that we are exactly 7,000 years from the flood to the very day that God shut the door. Please read it for yourself.. May God Bless you
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While I think Catholics in particular are misguided, it still seems VERY RUDE to belittle the work of someone who isn't even here to defend herself. Criticize the Pope for trying to hide child molesters in his church, but don't besmirch the good work of Mother Teresa, please, as there are just too few people willing to help others the way it is, not to hold the few out for ridicule. Go ask your mother why this is not nice.
I just got the weirdest email. Has anyone heard about this? I'm just looking for a little clarification. Apparently there was shady ambiguous prophecy, located deep within the Vatican archives, that indicated that a 'dark force' would suck in all of existence, and subsequently spew out a collective consciousness that would turn all remaining life forms into hippies. She went around trying to proclaim this truth, but the Vatican immediately suppressed her work and discredited her as an 'atheist'.. whatever that is.
Religion & Spirituality - 7 Answers
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And if they were hippies... Why they would have no need for the Church!
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no absolutely not
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Hello, Mother Teresa concerned herself with helping the poor, sick and afflicted and running hospitals which took up a great deal of her time. Like most other Catholics I know, she most likely did not worry or fret about the end times realizing that if she were to be hit by a bus shot in a riot or beaten to death by a robber or suffer a fatal heart attack, it was the end of the world for her anyway. I'd say this is another urban legend in waiting. Cheers, Michael Kelly
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It sounds more like a wierd rumour than a credible claim. The bit that makes me really suspicious is the allegation that the Vatican discredited her by declaring her an atheist. In fact, her supposed 'atheism' did not come to public knowledge until after her death and was not really atheism at all. It was an exceptionally prolonged 'dark night of the soul', during which she suffered a long period of spiritual dryness and an apparent absence of God, but did not deny her faith. The concept of the dark night of the soul is a long established aspect of Catholic spirituality, and is especially associated with the sixteenth century mystic St John of the Cross. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Night_of_the_Soul
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You're either making it all up or you're very gullible.
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Mother Teresa couldn't have predicted the end of the world with any accuracy because God hasn't given that information out until the last year or two. The world can not end in 2012 because the Bible declares it will end in 2011. Even if Mother Teresa predicted 2012 she didn't get it from the Bible.. The end of the world is described in the Bible in great detail. I have seen all the proof from the Bible that God declares the world will end in 2011 beginning on 5/21/2011. This is an amazing study if you are interested. Seek God If you read 1COR 2:9-16 and substitue "True Gospel" for the word "things" you will see how saved man "can know" and how the phrase "No man knoweth" is describing the unsaved condition of man. Moreover the studies linked below will show you the detailed calendar that is in the Bible and how you can see that we are exactly 7,000 years from the flood to the very day that God shut the door. Please read it for yourself.. May God Bless you
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While I think Catholics in particular are misguided, it still seems VERY RUDE to belittle the work of someone who isn't even here to defend herself. Criticize the Pope for trying to hide child molesters in his church, but don't besmirch the good work of Mother Teresa, please, as there are just too few people willing to help others the way it is, not to hold the few out for ridicule. Go ask your mother why this is not nice.
Saturday, May 7, 2011
Why do right-wing, conservative Catholics get upset with the changes of Vatican II
Why do right-wing, conservative Catholics get upset with the changes of Vatican II?
Not saying all, but a lot of the ones I meet wax nostalgically about the old days: Priest turning his back on his people, priest reading a language no one understands and no one speaks any longer to make sure that his congregation has no idea what's going on, no allowance for gay marriage, telling people that abortion is a sin, Catholics weren't allowed to divorce and remarry, Churches were dark and gloomy, people looked like they were going to a fashion parade or a funeral, not a fun place to praise the Lord, hymns were done on organs and electric guitars were forbidden....the church was a cold, dark place back then. Let's look at it today: Today's Catholic Church has reaped the fruits of the Reforms of Vatican II: we no longer have celibate priests, Catholics can divorce and remarry, abortion is no longer forbidden, women are given an active role in the church, Mass today is fun and jazzy and people understand it b/c it's in English instead of a dead language that keeps people in the dark, whereas in the old days people broke away from Catholicism like Lutherans and Episcopalians and Methodists, we don't have reformations any longer ---people are happy to be Catholic, so why do you cons want to undo the beautiful works of the 1960s that allowed our church to flower. Why do you want to go back to the dark ages of dead languages, dark and gloomy churches, celibate priests, anti-abortion, anti gay old school Catholicism. Source: twelve years of Catholic schooling (from 1st grade to senior year of high school) No, I have plenty of friends who are Catholic and are divorced and remarried. I also know a gay Catholic who attends Mass every Sunday and several of my Catholic friends have had abortions, so please stop saying that Catholics can't divorce or be gay or have abortions ---that went out with the 1950s. Times have changed. Maybe you'd rather be in a Cathedral hearing some dead language and hating gays and wanting to ban abortion.
Politics - 10 Answers
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Most Catholics are Democrats. Does the name Kennedy ring a bell? Pelosi? Don't you even know your own party? Also, there is no Vatican II and your entire post is complete hogwash.
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You are mistaken priests are still supposed to be celibate abortion is still murder,Sex without marriage is still a sin,Gay marriage is moronic and you are probably making an attempt to be funny,FAIL
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Have you ever seen Dogma? "Buddy Jesus" says it all and the ridiculousness of it.
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When have Catholics ever been pro gay and pro abortion that's still the same as is probably child abuse so grow up and read that book of fiction you call a bible.
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The church has gone through many stages these past 2000 years. It falls into chaos, debauchery, and its distance from God increases from time to time. This has happened many times throughout the churches corrupt history. Conservative Catholics know all about it. They want their church close to God, as close as possible. Turning one's back on God's teachings, accepting, or promoting, "sin" is not how the church gets itself, or its people closer to God. The church might be more successful financially by reforming itself, may better fit into society, may better serve its flocks needs, but it doesn't serve God's mission, doesn't serve people's spiritual needs, doesn't bring people closer to God by doing so.
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Most Catholics are Democrats and child pedophiles
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You mean Like Joe Biden?
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You didn't learn much in that twelve years! NONE of your claims can be substantiated by ANY of the Catechism of the Catholic Church's contents.
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You have some of it right however I must inform you much of what you said is false. First of all abortion is has never been and never will be ok. It is murder and the church does stand firm on this issue. Sure there are Catholics who have had one however that does not change the fact that it is a sin in the eyes of the church. Gays yes of course are allowed to be Catholics that is not the issue the church has with them. The issue is acting upon their sexual desires, because they are forbidden by God. Marriage has always been always will be only between a man and a woman, even if "gay marriage" becomes the acceptable term does not make it so. You can call it what ever you like but that doesn't make it true. The majority of the priest do remain celibate, and the percentage of sex offending priests in the church is a great deal smaller than other christian denominations. As for divorce and remarrying, a marriage first has to be proven as invalid meaning there truly was never a marriage to begin with, this is called an annulment, its not the same as a divorce. Who ever said church has to be fun! That is not why you are there! Its great if you do enjoy it and have fun at mass but that is not why you should be going! Its not about having fun its about worshiping your God because you have made that commitment to! When you make a commitment to another person it isn't always going to be fun or enjoyable and a commitment to God is no different!
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When one spends many years or decades doing a thing a particular way, change can be unsettling. This is especially true when no choice or option is allowed. As you see in your list, there were a lot of changes made very quickly. I was 7 at the time so I adjusted quickly. Those who were much older had / have harder times. Did you know that is one reason why there are several Churches in NY now that have dispensations to say the Mass in Latin? Their congregations demanded them, and many people came to them when they went to Latin. Change is good. That doesn't mean people (have to) like it. Sadly, some of your conclusions are misinformed. I suggest looking more closely at particular details, such as 'not have celibate priests'. Roman Catholic Priests are still celibate, Episcopal and other denominations are not, and this predates (and has nothing to do with) Vatican II.
Not saying all, but a lot of the ones I meet wax nostalgically about the old days: Priest turning his back on his people, priest reading a language no one understands and no one speaks any longer to make sure that his congregation has no idea what's going on, no allowance for gay marriage, telling people that abortion is a sin, Catholics weren't allowed to divorce and remarry, Churches were dark and gloomy, people looked like they were going to a fashion parade or a funeral, not a fun place to praise the Lord, hymns were done on organs and electric guitars were forbidden....the church was a cold, dark place back then. Let's look at it today: Today's Catholic Church has reaped the fruits of the Reforms of Vatican II: we no longer have celibate priests, Catholics can divorce and remarry, abortion is no longer forbidden, women are given an active role in the church, Mass today is fun and jazzy and people understand it b/c it's in English instead of a dead language that keeps people in the dark, whereas in the old days people broke away from Catholicism like Lutherans and Episcopalians and Methodists, we don't have reformations any longer ---people are happy to be Catholic, so why do you cons want to undo the beautiful works of the 1960s that allowed our church to flower. Why do you want to go back to the dark ages of dead languages, dark and gloomy churches, celibate priests, anti-abortion, anti gay old school Catholicism. Source: twelve years of Catholic schooling (from 1st grade to senior year of high school) No, I have plenty of friends who are Catholic and are divorced and remarried. I also know a gay Catholic who attends Mass every Sunday and several of my Catholic friends have had abortions, so please stop saying that Catholics can't divorce or be gay or have abortions ---that went out with the 1950s. Times have changed. Maybe you'd rather be in a Cathedral hearing some dead language and hating gays and wanting to ban abortion.
Politics - 10 Answers
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Most Catholics are Democrats. Does the name Kennedy ring a bell? Pelosi? Don't you even know your own party? Also, there is no Vatican II and your entire post is complete hogwash.
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You are mistaken priests are still supposed to be celibate abortion is still murder,Sex without marriage is still a sin,Gay marriage is moronic and you are probably making an attempt to be funny,FAIL
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Have you ever seen Dogma? "Buddy Jesus" says it all and the ridiculousness of it.
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When have Catholics ever been pro gay and pro abortion that's still the same as is probably child abuse so grow up and read that book of fiction you call a bible.
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The church has gone through many stages these past 2000 years. It falls into chaos, debauchery, and its distance from God increases from time to time. This has happened many times throughout the churches corrupt history. Conservative Catholics know all about it. They want their church close to God, as close as possible. Turning one's back on God's teachings, accepting, or promoting, "sin" is not how the church gets itself, or its people closer to God. The church might be more successful financially by reforming itself, may better fit into society, may better serve its flocks needs, but it doesn't serve God's mission, doesn't serve people's spiritual needs, doesn't bring people closer to God by doing so.
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Most Catholics are Democrats and child pedophiles
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You mean Like Joe Biden?
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You didn't learn much in that twelve years! NONE of your claims can be substantiated by ANY of the Catechism of the Catholic Church's contents.
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You have some of it right however I must inform you much of what you said is false. First of all abortion is has never been and never will be ok. It is murder and the church does stand firm on this issue. Sure there are Catholics who have had one however that does not change the fact that it is a sin in the eyes of the church. Gays yes of course are allowed to be Catholics that is not the issue the church has with them. The issue is acting upon their sexual desires, because they are forbidden by God. Marriage has always been always will be only between a man and a woman, even if "gay marriage" becomes the acceptable term does not make it so. You can call it what ever you like but that doesn't make it true. The majority of the priest do remain celibate, and the percentage of sex offending priests in the church is a great deal smaller than other christian denominations. As for divorce and remarrying, a marriage first has to be proven as invalid meaning there truly was never a marriage to begin with, this is called an annulment, its not the same as a divorce. Who ever said church has to be fun! That is not why you are there! Its great if you do enjoy it and have fun at mass but that is not why you should be going! Its not about having fun its about worshiping your God because you have made that commitment to! When you make a commitment to another person it isn't always going to be fun or enjoyable and a commitment to God is no different!
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When one spends many years or decades doing a thing a particular way, change can be unsettling. This is especially true when no choice or option is allowed. As you see in your list, there were a lot of changes made very quickly. I was 7 at the time so I adjusted quickly. Those who were much older had / have harder times. Did you know that is one reason why there are several Churches in NY now that have dispensations to say the Mass in Latin? Their congregations demanded them, and many people came to them when they went to Latin. Change is good. That doesn't mean people (have to) like it. Sadly, some of your conclusions are misinformed. I suggest looking more closely at particular details, such as 'not have celibate priests'. Roman Catholic Priests are still celibate, Episcopal and other denominations are not, and this predates (and has nothing to do with) Vatican II.
Sunday, May 1, 2011
Were Nazis at the Nuremberg trial able to extricate themselves from Nazi atrocities committed outside Germany
Were Nazis at the Nuremberg trial able to extricate themselves from Nazi atrocities committed outside Germany?
Nazis who worked exclusively doing paperwork in Berlin at the "High Command" located in Berlin Germany claimed they because they had no direct control over Nazi's in places like Poland (Auschwitz) they were not responsible for their atrocities. Today, the Vatican is similarly claiming that they had no direct control over sex crimes on minors committed by Priests in Wisconsin.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcudlm6tPa0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BEfd3dNTvE low ranking nazis didn't go to trial...what do you want?....20,000 nazis under trial?...while that may have been a good idea? it wasn't realistic.
Nazis who worked exclusively doing paperwork in Berlin at the "High Command" located in Berlin Germany claimed they because they had no direct control over Nazi's in places like Poland (Auschwitz) they were not responsible for their atrocities. Today, the Vatican is similarly claiming that they had no direct control over sex crimes on minors committed by Priests in Wisconsin.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcudlm6tPa0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BEfd3dNTvE low ranking nazis didn't go to trial...what do you want?....20,000 nazis under trial?...while that may have been a good idea? it wasn't realistic.
Thursday, April 21, 2011
What do you think of the teachings of this catholic religious group
What do you think of the teachings of this catholic religious group ?
The Vatican has warned Catholic bishops around the world to monitor carefully a secretive traditionalist sect which prays to angels to combat demons. Opus Angelorum, which means "the work of angels" in Latin, was founded by an Austrian housewife who died in 1978. She claimed to have identified the angels and demons who were battling for the control of human beings. The Church said some members of the sect were carrying out "activities that disturb the ecclesiastical community". 'Possessed' The BBC's David Willey in Rome says Opus Angelorum first attracted the attention of the Vatican 30 years ago, after the death of its founder, a woman from the Austrian Tyrol called Gabriele Bitterlich. Bitterlich claimed to have been in contact with an archangel and to have written down the names of hundreds of angels and demons, our correspondent says. Continue reading the main story “ Start Quote The Congregation has learned that very discreet propaganda in favour of this wayward movement... is taking place†End Quote The sect - which operates mainly in German-speaking Europe, Brazil and India - claims that women who have had abortions are possessed by the devil. The activities of Bitterlich's followers, including dozens of Catholic priests and nuns, eventually attracted the attention of the Vatican which ordered an investigation, our correspondent adds. According to a letter sent by the head of the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, in 1992 members of Opus Angelorum agreed to follow the doctrine of the Church in return for official recognition. "In particular, [its] members were not to make use of the 'names' of angels derived from the alleged private revelations attributed to Mrs Gabriele Bitterlich and they were not to teach, spread or make use of the theories originating from these alleged revelations," Cardinal William Levada said. "Furthermore, they were reminded of the duty to follow strictly all liturgical laws, in particular those relating to the Holy Eucharist." However, several members of the sect, including some priests, "have not accepted the norms given by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and seek to restore what, according to them, would be the 'authentic Opus Angelorum'", the letter warned. "The Congregation has learned that very discreet propaganda in favour of this wayward movement, which is outside of any ecclesiastical control, is taking place, aimed at presenting it as if it were in full communion with the Catholic Church." Our correspondent says Opus Angelorum has no known connection with the best-selling novel, Angels and Demons, written by Dan Browne, who has been criticised by the Vatican for his fictional works involving superstition in the Catholic Church. If you a modern, liberal christian looking down your 'enlightened' nose and shaking your head, can't you see that this is how ridiculous ALL the superstitions in the bible are. There is simply no evidence for anything supernatural FULL STOP.
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That's a bit of a long rant dear. Do you expect people to read it to the very end? You seem positively religious in your zeal. http://trifter.com/europe/ireland/islands-off-the-coast-of-ireland/
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Silly Christians and there weak gods.
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The Catholic church follows many unbiblical practices; why should one more matter??
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Any one who follows not the teachings of Jesus will not be called as Catholic. They are all rejectors.
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Stupidity is non-denominational.
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Opus Sanctorum Angelorum (English: "Work of the Holy Angels"), more commonly known as Opus Angelorum (English: "Work of the Angels"; German: "Engelwerk"), is a Roman Catholic association which promotes devotion to angels. "(It) is a public association of the Church in conformity with traditional doctrine and with the directives of the Holy See. It spreads devotion to the Holy Angels among the faithful, exhorts them to pray for priests, and promotes love for Christ in His Passion and union with it." The association is active particularly in Austria, where it originated, and in Germany, but also in Portugal, Brazil, Mexico, India, the Philippines, Italy and the United States. The association was founded in 1949 by a group of priests and seminarians in Innsbruck, Austria, to seek the aid of the angels in support of the Church and the priesthood and for the salvation of souls. The association drew inspiration from the accounts that Gabriele Bitterlich (1896-1978) gave of her private revelations. She claimed to have received visions of the angels, including their names and their functions. Some of Mrs Bitterlich's followers were circulating sensational theories of "spiritual warfare" between angels and demons, based on her writings. In view of the controversy over these theories, Cardinal Joseph Höffner, Archbishop of Cologne, wrote on 1 December 1977, shortly before the death of Mrs Bitterlich, to ask the Holy See to institute an enquiry. The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith carried out the requested investigation and responded on 24 September 1983 with a letter, known by its incipit, Litteris diei, which laid down: 1.) In fostering devotion to the Holy Angels, Opus Angelorum must respect the teaching of the Church and of the Holy Fathers and Doctors. In particular, it is not to spread a form of devotion to the Angels using the "names" derived from the alleged private revelation attributed to Mrs Gabriele Bitterlich, nor may it use those names in any prayers of the community. 2.) Opus Angelorum is not to demand or even propose to its members what is called the Promise of Secrecy, although with regard to the internal affairs of the Opus Angelorum, it is lawful to maintain the discretion that befits members of the Church's institutes. 3.) The Opus Angelorum and its members will strictly observe the norms of the liturgy, especially regarding the Eucharist. This holds in particular for the so-called "Communion of Expiation". This was followed up by a decree of 6 June 1992, which repeated the contents of the 1983 letter and, in view of incorrect interpretation and application of that letter, laid down the following rules: 1.) The theories originating from the alleged revelations of Mrs Gabriele Bitterlich concerning the world of the angels and their personal names, groupings and functions cannot be taught or in any way, whether explicitly or implicitly, be used in the organization and structure of the Opus Angelorum, such as its worship, prayers, spiritual formation, public or private spirituality, ministry and apostolate. The same rule holds for any other Church-approved institute or association. 2.) The various forms of acts of consecration to the angels used in the Opus Angelorum are prohibited. 3.) Also prohibited are the so-called distance administration of the sacraments and the insertion into the Eucharistic liturgy and the Liturgy of the Hours of texts, prayers and rites directly or indirectly related to the aforesaid theories. 4.) Exorcisms may be carried out only in line with the Church's norms and discipline on the matter, and with the use of formulas approved by the Church. 5.) A Delegate with special faculties, appointed by the Holy See, will in contact with the bishops oversee and promote the application of these norms. He will also clarify and determine the relations between the Opus Angelorum and the Order of the Canons Regular of the Holy Cross. The Delegate chosen was the Dominican priest, Father Benoit Duroux, who handed over to another Dominican priest, Father Daniel Ols, in March 2010. On 31 May 2000, a revised form of the Act of Consecration to the Angels was approved by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. In the year 2002, a female branch of the Canons Regular, which is known as the Sisters of the Holy Cross, was established in Innsbruck. In the following year, 2003, the Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life granted definitive approval to the Canons Regular of the Holy Cross of Coimbra, a religious institute originally founded in 1131 and, after becoming defunct in the 19th century, refounded in 1977, receiving the formal approval of the Holy See in 1979. To it, in accordance with canons 677 §2 and 303 of the Code of Canon Law, the care of Opus Angelorum movement is committed.
The Vatican has warned Catholic bishops around the world to monitor carefully a secretive traditionalist sect which prays to angels to combat demons. Opus Angelorum, which means "the work of angels" in Latin, was founded by an Austrian housewife who died in 1978. She claimed to have identified the angels and demons who were battling for the control of human beings. The Church said some members of the sect were carrying out "activities that disturb the ecclesiastical community". 'Possessed' The BBC's David Willey in Rome says Opus Angelorum first attracted the attention of the Vatican 30 years ago, after the death of its founder, a woman from the Austrian Tyrol called Gabriele Bitterlich. Bitterlich claimed to have been in contact with an archangel and to have written down the names of hundreds of angels and demons, our correspondent says. Continue reading the main story “ Start Quote The Congregation has learned that very discreet propaganda in favour of this wayward movement... is taking place†End Quote The sect - which operates mainly in German-speaking Europe, Brazil and India - claims that women who have had abortions are possessed by the devil. The activities of Bitterlich's followers, including dozens of Catholic priests and nuns, eventually attracted the attention of the Vatican which ordered an investigation, our correspondent adds. According to a letter sent by the head of the Vatican's Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, in 1992 members of Opus Angelorum agreed to follow the doctrine of the Church in return for official recognition. "In particular, [its] members were not to make use of the 'names' of angels derived from the alleged private revelations attributed to Mrs Gabriele Bitterlich and they were not to teach, spread or make use of the theories originating from these alleged revelations," Cardinal William Levada said. "Furthermore, they were reminded of the duty to follow strictly all liturgical laws, in particular those relating to the Holy Eucharist." However, several members of the sect, including some priests, "have not accepted the norms given by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith and seek to restore what, according to them, would be the 'authentic Opus Angelorum'", the letter warned. "The Congregation has learned that very discreet propaganda in favour of this wayward movement, which is outside of any ecclesiastical control, is taking place, aimed at presenting it as if it were in full communion with the Catholic Church." Our correspondent says Opus Angelorum has no known connection with the best-selling novel, Angels and Demons, written by Dan Browne, who has been criticised by the Vatican for his fictional works involving superstition in the Catholic Church. If you a modern, liberal christian looking down your 'enlightened' nose and shaking your head, can't you see that this is how ridiculous ALL the superstitions in the bible are. There is simply no evidence for anything supernatural FULL STOP.
Religion & Spirituality - 6 Answers
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That's a bit of a long rant dear. Do you expect people to read it to the very end? You seem positively religious in your zeal. http://trifter.com/europe/ireland/islands-off-the-coast-of-ireland/
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Silly Christians and there weak gods.
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The Catholic church follows many unbiblical practices; why should one more matter??
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Any one who follows not the teachings of Jesus will not be called as Catholic. They are all rejectors.
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Stupidity is non-denominational.
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Opus Sanctorum Angelorum (English: "Work of the Holy Angels"), more commonly known as Opus Angelorum (English: "Work of the Angels"; German: "Engelwerk"), is a Roman Catholic association which promotes devotion to angels. "(It) is a public association of the Church in conformity with traditional doctrine and with the directives of the Holy See. It spreads devotion to the Holy Angels among the faithful, exhorts them to pray for priests, and promotes love for Christ in His Passion and union with it." The association is active particularly in Austria, where it originated, and in Germany, but also in Portugal, Brazil, Mexico, India, the Philippines, Italy and the United States. The association was founded in 1949 by a group of priests and seminarians in Innsbruck, Austria, to seek the aid of the angels in support of the Church and the priesthood and for the salvation of souls. The association drew inspiration from the accounts that Gabriele Bitterlich (1896-1978) gave of her private revelations. She claimed to have received visions of the angels, including their names and their functions. Some of Mrs Bitterlich's followers were circulating sensational theories of "spiritual warfare" between angels and demons, based on her writings. In view of the controversy over these theories, Cardinal Joseph Höffner, Archbishop of Cologne, wrote on 1 December 1977, shortly before the death of Mrs Bitterlich, to ask the Holy See to institute an enquiry. The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith carried out the requested investigation and responded on 24 September 1983 with a letter, known by its incipit, Litteris diei, which laid down: 1.) In fostering devotion to the Holy Angels, Opus Angelorum must respect the teaching of the Church and of the Holy Fathers and Doctors. In particular, it is not to spread a form of devotion to the Angels using the "names" derived from the alleged private revelation attributed to Mrs Gabriele Bitterlich, nor may it use those names in any prayers of the community. 2.) Opus Angelorum is not to demand or even propose to its members what is called the Promise of Secrecy, although with regard to the internal affairs of the Opus Angelorum, it is lawful to maintain the discretion that befits members of the Church's institutes. 3.) The Opus Angelorum and its members will strictly observe the norms of the liturgy, especially regarding the Eucharist. This holds in particular for the so-called "Communion of Expiation". This was followed up by a decree of 6 June 1992, which repeated the contents of the 1983 letter and, in view of incorrect interpretation and application of that letter, laid down the following rules: 1.) The theories originating from the alleged revelations of Mrs Gabriele Bitterlich concerning the world of the angels and their personal names, groupings and functions cannot be taught or in any way, whether explicitly or implicitly, be used in the organization and structure of the Opus Angelorum, such as its worship, prayers, spiritual formation, public or private spirituality, ministry and apostolate. The same rule holds for any other Church-approved institute or association. 2.) The various forms of acts of consecration to the angels used in the Opus Angelorum are prohibited. 3.) Also prohibited are the so-called distance administration of the sacraments and the insertion into the Eucharistic liturgy and the Liturgy of the Hours of texts, prayers and rites directly or indirectly related to the aforesaid theories. 4.) Exorcisms may be carried out only in line with the Church's norms and discipline on the matter, and with the use of formulas approved by the Church. 5.) A Delegate with special faculties, appointed by the Holy See, will in contact with the bishops oversee and promote the application of these norms. He will also clarify and determine the relations between the Opus Angelorum and the Order of the Canons Regular of the Holy Cross. The Delegate chosen was the Dominican priest, Father Benoit Duroux, who handed over to another Dominican priest, Father Daniel Ols, in March 2010. On 31 May 2000, a revised form of the Act of Consecration to the Angels was approved by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. In the year 2002, a female branch of the Canons Regular, which is known as the Sisters of the Holy Cross, was established in Innsbruck. In the following year, 2003, the Congregation for Institutes of Consecrated Life and Societies of Apostolic Life granted definitive approval to the Canons Regular of the Holy Cross of Coimbra, a religious institute originally founded in 1131 and, after becoming defunct in the 19th century, refounded in 1977, receiving the formal approval of the Holy See in 1979. To it, in accordance with canons 677 §2 and 303 of the Code of Canon Law, the care of Opus Angelorum movement is committed.
Thursday, April 14, 2011
Did you know that the age of consent in the Vatican is twelve
Did you know that the age of consent in the Vatican is twelve?
A new statute signed by Pope Nazinger has ended the system whereby the Vatican must automatically accept Italian laws providing they are not radically incompatible with canonic law*. As of January 1st, all Italian laws are subject to Vatican scrutiny before being implemented in the city-state. Jose Maria Serrano Ruiz of the Commission for the Revision of the Code of Vatican Law said that the decision to change the legal system was due to the instability and exorbitant number of Italian laws. But Simplification Minister Roberto Calderoli, is currently working to cut 36,000 laws from the Italian system. Parliament Relations Minister Elio Vito, agreed there are too many laws. “They are often badly written and sometimes not very understandable.†If any of the 800 citizens in the 44 hectare enclave are concerned about their legal rights, they should have no trouble emigrating to Italy, it’s just a matter of walking through a gate. *For example, the age of consent in the Vatican is 12.
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Vatican City? you mean the Vatican in Italy? you gots to be kiddin me, I'm instantly goin there. good luck there, it's very small there and it is hard to find accomadation to live. especially since it's inside the city limits of rome or italy or sumthin like that.
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Many of them never bothered to get the consent of 10 year old choir boys, so this may be an improvement.
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All of this is very interesting. Consent to do what? Please be more specific.
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If this is true,then I think the Vatican is sick Funny how they are against gay marriage and say that it's immoral,but here they are with their Middle Ages views on things
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By law in Britain, pregnant women are allowed to pee in policemens hats Bizarre!
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Really.?... I did not know that. Thanks for filling us in, Dr Know-It-All.
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Please cite the documents or provide links to these claims so that the rest of us can do proper research. Thank you. With love in Christ.
A new statute signed by Pope Nazinger has ended the system whereby the Vatican must automatically accept Italian laws providing they are not radically incompatible with canonic law*. As of January 1st, all Italian laws are subject to Vatican scrutiny before being implemented in the city-state. Jose Maria Serrano Ruiz of the Commission for the Revision of the Code of Vatican Law said that the decision to change the legal system was due to the instability and exorbitant number of Italian laws. But Simplification Minister Roberto Calderoli, is currently working to cut 36,000 laws from the Italian system. Parliament Relations Minister Elio Vito, agreed there are too many laws. “They are often badly written and sometimes not very understandable.†If any of the 800 citizens in the 44 hectare enclave are concerned about their legal rights, they should have no trouble emigrating to Italy, it’s just a matter of walking through a gate. *For example, the age of consent in the Vatican is 12.
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Vatican City? you mean the Vatican in Italy? you gots to be kiddin me, I'm instantly goin there. good luck there, it's very small there and it is hard to find accomadation to live. especially since it's inside the city limits of rome or italy or sumthin like that.
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Many of them never bothered to get the consent of 10 year old choir boys, so this may be an improvement.
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All of this is very interesting. Consent to do what? Please be more specific.
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If this is true,then I think the Vatican is sick Funny how they are against gay marriage and say that it's immoral,but here they are with their Middle Ages views on things
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By law in Britain, pregnant women are allowed to pee in policemens hats Bizarre!
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Really.?... I did not know that. Thanks for filling us in, Dr Know-It-All.
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Please cite the documents or provide links to these claims so that the rest of us can do proper research. Thank you. With love in Christ.
Thursday, April 7, 2011
What do you think is hidden in the Vatican that public can't see
What do you think is hidden in the Vatican that public can't see?
The Vatican Secret Archives are estimated to behold 85 kilometers of shelving, 35,000 volumes and 120,000 loose documents, in the selective catalogue alone: "Publication of the indexes, in part or as a whole, is forbidden," according to the regulations in 2005. What about things such as the works and investigations of people like Ptolemy, one of the most famous astronomers and geographers from Egypt or any works from people that they don't want us to know the truth about that may threaten religious beliefs Thoughts please.....
Religion & Spirituality - 20 Answers
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Aliens.
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a statue of tom hanks
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A fuck load of ancient porn
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Bongs and a lot of ganja, maybe some shrooms
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a group of naked slave boys.
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ann summers catalogues. did you know the age of consent in vatigan city is 14?
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The Vatican is a country--All countries have secrets
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Pedophiles...
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The Vatican doesn't want you to know the truth about their beginnings.
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The secret archives are online. http://asv.vatican.va/home_en.htm You people and your conspiracies theories.
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WOW really! They should be ashamed to not share it with the world.
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The transcripts of Galileo's trail.
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This website goes into great detail about it http://www.exposingchristianity.com its way more than you might think.
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all books that did not get burnt in the fire that destroyed the Library of Alexandria.
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And what's hidden the National Archives in the US. That much material isn't even approachable. It would take centuries to catalog. there's probably not much that's damaging to Catholicism, but since they don't want to spare the manpower to make an inventory, they don't want to take a chance.
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If you want to find out if "the works and investigations of people like Ptolemy" are held in the Vatican Secret Archives, go to the Vatican Secret Archives and ask for them. http://asv.vatican.va/home_en.htm
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KAKAROT!
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@Greg: Ah yes, but the conspiracy theorists will just say, "But what about the ones they don't admit to?"
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They have proof God does not exist, or at least that Jesus is not the son of God
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proves of science spells fallacies of what censorship exhumes.
The Vatican Secret Archives are estimated to behold 85 kilometers of shelving, 35,000 volumes and 120,000 loose documents, in the selective catalogue alone: "Publication of the indexes, in part or as a whole, is forbidden," according to the regulations in 2005. What about things such as the works and investigations of people like Ptolemy, one of the most famous astronomers and geographers from Egypt or any works from people that they don't want us to know the truth about that may threaten religious beliefs Thoughts please.....
Religion & Spirituality - 20 Answers
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Aliens.
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a statue of tom hanks
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A fuck load of ancient porn
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Bongs and a lot of ganja, maybe some shrooms
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a group of naked slave boys.
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ann summers catalogues. did you know the age of consent in vatigan city is 14?
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The Vatican is a country--All countries have secrets
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Pedophiles...
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The Vatican doesn't want you to know the truth about their beginnings.
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The secret archives are online. http://asv.vatican.va/home_en.htm You people and your conspiracies theories.
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WOW really! They should be ashamed to not share it with the world.
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The transcripts of Galileo's trail.
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This website goes into great detail about it http://www.exposingchristianity.com its way more than you might think.
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all books that did not get burnt in the fire that destroyed the Library of Alexandria.
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And what's hidden the National Archives in the US. That much material isn't even approachable. It would take centuries to catalog. there's probably not much that's damaging to Catholicism, but since they don't want to spare the manpower to make an inventory, they don't want to take a chance.
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If you want to find out if "the works and investigations of people like Ptolemy" are held in the Vatican Secret Archives, go to the Vatican Secret Archives and ask for them. http://asv.vatican.va/home_en.htm
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KAKAROT!
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@Greg: Ah yes, but the conspiracy theorists will just say, "But what about the ones they don't admit to?"
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They have proof God does not exist, or at least that Jesus is not the son of God
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proves of science spells fallacies of what censorship exhumes.
Friday, April 1, 2011
Did you know that the age of consent in the Vatican is twelve
Did you know that the age of consent in the Vatican is twelve?
A new statute signed by Pope Nazinger has ended the system whereby the Vatican must automatically accept Italian laws providing they are not radically incompatible with canonic law*. As of January 1st, all Italian laws are subject to Vatican scrutiny before being implemented in the city-state. Jose Maria Serrano Ruiz of the Commission for the Revision of the Code of Vatican Law said that the decision to change the legal system was due to the instability and exorbitant number of Italian laws. But Simplification Minister Roberto Calderoli, is currently working to cut 36,000 laws from the Italian system. Parliament Relations Minister Elio Vito, agreed there are too many laws. “They are often badly written and sometimes not very understandable.†If any of the 800 citizens in the 44 hectare enclave are concerned about their legal rights, they should have no trouble emigrating to Italy, it’s just a matter of walking through a gate. *For example, the age of consent in the Vatican is 12.
Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgendered - 4 Answers
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12? Wow. So child molesters are accepted by religion!! Go figure!! :@)
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I hope you are making that up, or if it's a matter of misunderstanding. That's some serious s*it. Wonder how that would effect Catholics around the world? Would they remain in the church? Or leave in droves?
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Damn...but the countries have different laws. Even though this religion allows sex at 12, the country laws overthrow whatever they say. I can make up my own religion and say I can have sex with underage kids, but that doesn't mean the government wouldn't throw me into prison just because it my beliefs. Either way, gross. I don't know how these people can find 12 year olds attractive. Sick sick sick.
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If you would like more answers, consider asking around this site as well... http://christianforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26
A new statute signed by Pope Nazinger has ended the system whereby the Vatican must automatically accept Italian laws providing they are not radically incompatible with canonic law*. As of January 1st, all Italian laws are subject to Vatican scrutiny before being implemented in the city-state. Jose Maria Serrano Ruiz of the Commission for the Revision of the Code of Vatican Law said that the decision to change the legal system was due to the instability and exorbitant number of Italian laws. But Simplification Minister Roberto Calderoli, is currently working to cut 36,000 laws from the Italian system. Parliament Relations Minister Elio Vito, agreed there are too many laws. “They are often badly written and sometimes not very understandable.†If any of the 800 citizens in the 44 hectare enclave are concerned about their legal rights, they should have no trouble emigrating to Italy, it’s just a matter of walking through a gate. *For example, the age of consent in the Vatican is 12.
Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgendered - 4 Answers
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12? Wow. So child molesters are accepted by religion!! Go figure!! :@)
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I hope you are making that up, or if it's a matter of misunderstanding. That's some serious s*it. Wonder how that would effect Catholics around the world? Would they remain in the church? Or leave in droves?
3 :
Damn...but the countries have different laws. Even though this religion allows sex at 12, the country laws overthrow whatever they say. I can make up my own religion and say I can have sex with underage kids, but that doesn't mean the government wouldn't throw me into prison just because it my beliefs. Either way, gross. I don't know how these people can find 12 year olds attractive. Sick sick sick.
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If you would like more answers, consider asking around this site as well... http://christianforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=26
Monday, March 21, 2011
Should the Vatican Relinquish Statehood
Should the Vatican Relinquish Statehood?
Here is something I’ve written in defense of my posture that the Church must relinquish statehood. What do you think? Do you agree? Disagree? The Vatican Must Relinquish Statehood While Christians do not fear what the world offers we rightly fear God in His correction. The signs of His correction are with us. Cradle Catholics leave the Church or see her as only a social obligation. Cafeteria Catholics pick and choose what they wish to believe then practice as devout believers sometimes organizing into fronts for Pagan causes. There is a pitiful lack of priests and religious. Our indulgence in armed defense and statehood has put the Church in the sorrowful state of correction. The Church strives toward perfection. The Church has changed away from and toward that goal since Jesus walked the Earth. Giving the world the benefit of the doubt, the perfected Church will not embrace politics and statehood. Christ works from within sometimes beyond human perception. Only externals may be determined through a Christian state. Christian statehood was never a good idea. In some cases it was an evil. It gave leave to Christians enforcing Christianity on the world through force. In as much, it gave leave to Christians beating up on their own servants. We who have been given so much are expected to give much. To those who have been given more, even more is expected. (Luke 12:35-48) To what end do we seek to have a Christian state? Do we fear death? Do we fear the loss of property or influence? Having nothing to fear and everything to gain, Christians need not protect themselves or holy property through statehood. Should we die for Christ, we die as martyrs strengthening the Church by becoming members of the Church Triumphant. If by following Christ we leave everything we have, we will be given even more. (Matthew 19:29) We need not project ourselves by nationhood either. Following our God we know that statehood is not what we seek. Jesus is not and never has been a statesman in the temporal world. (John 18:36) He corrected those who lived by the sword in support of Him. (Matthew 26:52) He withdrew from those who would make Him a temporal King. (John 6:15) He has a kingdom that transcends the temporal world. He has the Kingdom of God. The Catholic Church is the beachhead of the Kingdom of God in the temporal world. We who belong to the Kingdom of God know we are not yet complete. We fight the good fight of the Church Militant. We should not be split between the heavenly mission of saving souls and worldly political infighting. God is not split. He is one. We believe in the Communion of Saints. (Apostle’s Creed) In our belief we know that the Church Triumphant, the Saints in Heaven, fight with us with more vigor and strength than we can imagine. They are not fettered by worldly desires, temptations and sin. Their minds are clear. Their hearts are pure. They have the intelligence and strength of angels who fight with them. One, St. Theresa of the Infant Jesus, promised us before death that she will spend Heaven doing good on Earth. If every Christian in the temporal world is martyred, the Church will still exist stronger and more loving in the form of the Church Triumphant. There can always be new members of the Church on Earth. Jesus said He can raise stones to be children of Abraham. (Luke 3:8) Christians are the sons of Abraham grafted in through Christ into God’s promises of Abraham. (Galatians 3:29) Should we all die, Jesus can raise up more to become the Church through Christ Himself. (Acts 9:1-16) (Acts 44-46) In righteous fear of God’s correction, it is time for the Church, exhibiting her strength from God, to end the tradition of being statesmen. It is time for there to no longer be a Christian armed defense. Jesus tells us to turn the other cheek. (Mt 5:39) It is time for us to be willing to flee (John 8:59) or die rather than fight. We must assume the strength given to us from God. The weaker are truly the stronger through the grace of the Holy Spirit. (2 Corinthians 12:9) (1 Corinthians 12:23) We must be ready. He is coming back. Yours in Christ Jesus, Grace
Religion & Spirituality - 7 Answers
Random Answers, Critics, Comments, Opinions :
1 :
Yes, we must be ready and he is coming back. Who's to say he's not already here? I know the Rapturists expect to ascend to heaven before the time of trials and tribulations. They can hold on to that belief only until the end of time, or the beginning of the end. They especially will not see The Thief in the Night, as he will be more than unexpected when he does not grant them immunity and does give them trials. No man will know the hour or the day of the Lord's arrival All should be ready at any time. But who knows? Maybe it's a millenium away? As far as the statehood of the Vatican is concerned, I have no issue with it.
2 :
Christianity should be made illegal.
3 :
Yes, but do you really expect them to?
4 :
I think the Vatican as a nominal state is useful because it can send ambassadors and address the UN and send official delegates to conferences. I think that the Vatican could auction off all its secular but not religious art for the missions, the poor and the spreading of the faith The Church did waste a great deal on preserving the papal States up to the end of the nineteenth cent but Papal independence of civil rulers was important and still is.
5 :
The Catholic Vatican should remain a state, to be independent of all other states. Without being a State it would have not diplomatic presence in the world...and that would be a moral loss to the states of the world.
6 :
Grace, I can't argue with what you've written, at least in spirit. But I also can't agree that the statehood of the Vatican should be abandoned. To do so would put the head and heart of the Church under some other state's jurisdiction, and if anything would be even more conducive to a preoccupation with politics as a matter of preservation. History has not shown this to be a good thing. The Church does not need an empire, but soverignty of its own "state" -- basically a postage-stamp of land that is nevertheless not on soil that comes, or can come, under the control of a secular power -- means that no fighting over its ground can occur. I can't see that as detrimental to the faith.
7 :
The Vatican State has a greater necessity for its existence than at any other time in history. As the secular world continues its spiral downturn towards destruction, it is the small voice of this smallest State that Truth can be heard on the world stage. Turning the other cheek does not include disengaging from the world. While Jesus said, "to turn to other cheek," He also said to the world, most particularly to our age, "to sin no more". The Catholic Church will always be on earth, because it is the Body of Christ until the end of time. We must "Not Conform, but Transform" the world while participating in the world. Ultimately, the universe is still God's creation.
Here is something I’ve written in defense of my posture that the Church must relinquish statehood. What do you think? Do you agree? Disagree? The Vatican Must Relinquish Statehood While Christians do not fear what the world offers we rightly fear God in His correction. The signs of His correction are with us. Cradle Catholics leave the Church or see her as only a social obligation. Cafeteria Catholics pick and choose what they wish to believe then practice as devout believers sometimes organizing into fronts for Pagan causes. There is a pitiful lack of priests and religious. Our indulgence in armed defense and statehood has put the Church in the sorrowful state of correction. The Church strives toward perfection. The Church has changed away from and toward that goal since Jesus walked the Earth. Giving the world the benefit of the doubt, the perfected Church will not embrace politics and statehood. Christ works from within sometimes beyond human perception. Only externals may be determined through a Christian state. Christian statehood was never a good idea. In some cases it was an evil. It gave leave to Christians enforcing Christianity on the world through force. In as much, it gave leave to Christians beating up on their own servants. We who have been given so much are expected to give much. To those who have been given more, even more is expected. (Luke 12:35-48) To what end do we seek to have a Christian state? Do we fear death? Do we fear the loss of property or influence? Having nothing to fear and everything to gain, Christians need not protect themselves or holy property through statehood. Should we die for Christ, we die as martyrs strengthening the Church by becoming members of the Church Triumphant. If by following Christ we leave everything we have, we will be given even more. (Matthew 19:29) We need not project ourselves by nationhood either. Following our God we know that statehood is not what we seek. Jesus is not and never has been a statesman in the temporal world. (John 18:36) He corrected those who lived by the sword in support of Him. (Matthew 26:52) He withdrew from those who would make Him a temporal King. (John 6:15) He has a kingdom that transcends the temporal world. He has the Kingdom of God. The Catholic Church is the beachhead of the Kingdom of God in the temporal world. We who belong to the Kingdom of God know we are not yet complete. We fight the good fight of the Church Militant. We should not be split between the heavenly mission of saving souls and worldly political infighting. God is not split. He is one. We believe in the Communion of Saints. (Apostle’s Creed) In our belief we know that the Church Triumphant, the Saints in Heaven, fight with us with more vigor and strength than we can imagine. They are not fettered by worldly desires, temptations and sin. Their minds are clear. Their hearts are pure. They have the intelligence and strength of angels who fight with them. One, St. Theresa of the Infant Jesus, promised us before death that she will spend Heaven doing good on Earth. If every Christian in the temporal world is martyred, the Church will still exist stronger and more loving in the form of the Church Triumphant. There can always be new members of the Church on Earth. Jesus said He can raise stones to be children of Abraham. (Luke 3:8) Christians are the sons of Abraham grafted in through Christ into God’s promises of Abraham. (Galatians 3:29) Should we all die, Jesus can raise up more to become the Church through Christ Himself. (Acts 9:1-16) (Acts 44-46) In righteous fear of God’s correction, it is time for the Church, exhibiting her strength from God, to end the tradition of being statesmen. It is time for there to no longer be a Christian armed defense. Jesus tells us to turn the other cheek. (Mt 5:39) It is time for us to be willing to flee (John 8:59) or die rather than fight. We must assume the strength given to us from God. The weaker are truly the stronger through the grace of the Holy Spirit. (2 Corinthians 12:9) (1 Corinthians 12:23) We must be ready. He is coming back. Yours in Christ Jesus, Grace
Religion & Spirituality - 7 Answers
Random Answers, Critics, Comments, Opinions :
1 :
Yes, we must be ready and he is coming back. Who's to say he's not already here? I know the Rapturists expect to ascend to heaven before the time of trials and tribulations. They can hold on to that belief only until the end of time, or the beginning of the end. They especially will not see The Thief in the Night, as he will be more than unexpected when he does not grant them immunity and does give them trials. No man will know the hour or the day of the Lord's arrival All should be ready at any time. But who knows? Maybe it's a millenium away? As far as the statehood of the Vatican is concerned, I have no issue with it.
2 :
Christianity should be made illegal.
3 :
Yes, but do you really expect them to?
4 :
I think the Vatican as a nominal state is useful because it can send ambassadors and address the UN and send official delegates to conferences. I think that the Vatican could auction off all its secular but not religious art for the missions, the poor and the spreading of the faith The Church did waste a great deal on preserving the papal States up to the end of the nineteenth cent but Papal independence of civil rulers was important and still is.
5 :
The Catholic Vatican should remain a state, to be independent of all other states. Without being a State it would have not diplomatic presence in the world...and that would be a moral loss to the states of the world.
6 :
Grace, I can't argue with what you've written, at least in spirit. But I also can't agree that the statehood of the Vatican should be abandoned. To do so would put the head and heart of the Church under some other state's jurisdiction, and if anything would be even more conducive to a preoccupation with politics as a matter of preservation. History has not shown this to be a good thing. The Church does not need an empire, but soverignty of its own "state" -- basically a postage-stamp of land that is nevertheless not on soil that comes, or can come, under the control of a secular power -- means that no fighting over its ground can occur. I can't see that as detrimental to the faith.
7 :
The Vatican State has a greater necessity for its existence than at any other time in history. As the secular world continues its spiral downturn towards destruction, it is the small voice of this smallest State that Truth can be heard on the world stage. Turning the other cheek does not include disengaging from the world. While Jesus said, "to turn to other cheek," He also said to the world, most particularly to our age, "to sin no more". The Catholic Church will always be on earth, because it is the Body of Christ until the end of time. We must "Not Conform, but Transform" the world while participating in the world. Ultimately, the universe is still God's creation.
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